Miliband is interesting here

In a scathing article in the Observer, Miliband wrote: “Delegating to May and Davis, never mind Johnson and Fox, the settlement of a workable alternative to EU membership is a delusion, not just an abdication.”

The elected government of the day must not enact the result of a referendum. We should do it the EU way of course, keep having votes until the right answer is reached.

And this is his opening line:

For many years Britons and Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance.

We have?

20 comments on “Miliband is interesting here

  1. Whilst I agree with his sentiment, there is nothing to be done. May and her cronies couldn’t negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag so at the end of the two year period we are out, no agreements, no payments, no nothing. The only certain thing is that we are no longer in the EU.

  2. Milliband makes the case that used to be second nature to the Conservatuves Party . It is tat the world is fulol of ratehr childish people who are good at piointing out faults with the system .
    Ther are , on the other hand , almost none that have the slighetst idea how to contrsuct a better oine

  3. For many years Britons and Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance.

    This statement of positive pride is on the face of it bizarre, though I would concede that Brits and Americans do get a smug sense of superiority from countries that have clearly gone down the political pan. (Or indeed, out of it and into the fire.)

    If anything, I think we point and laugh too often at shoddy, meddlesome, negligent, hypocritical, unthought-through or actively repressive actions of foreign governments while parallel policies are being implemented on our own shores.

  4. Another Remoaner writing about the EU without mentioning its number one budget item.
    A bit like writing about Britain in 1946 without mentioning the defence budget.
    Or the USA without mentioning what they spend on healthcare – oh, he got that one in didn’t he, because there are only two ways to fund healthcare in the world, the US one and our one. The ignoramus.

  5. “…the world is fulol of ratehr childish people who are good at piointing out faults with the system .
    Ther are , on the other hand , almost none that have the slighetst idea how to contrsuct a better oine.”

    Ironically, you have neatly summarised there what is wrong with the Left as a whole.

  6. Who gives a shit what Banana Boy thinks? He shogged off to a greasy sinecure in NY after he (a) funked his putsch against Broon and (b) was shivved in the guts by his wonky bro. Does he really think his opinion still carries weight – or, even more bizarrely, does he still harbour a notion of becoming leader of the Labour Party?

    To paraphrase Popeye Doyle: ‘I’d rather be a lamp-post in New York than the leader of the Labour Party.’

  7. Ideally we should conclude impasse and leave now, stopping any further payments.

    The only reason to stay is to bring up the refund due to us when the French reneged on restructuring CAP, can’t think why they were given part of the rebate for that up front; masterful negotiating…

  8. NewRemainiac–The oozing “I am Gods Middle class gift to the Universe” arrogance that makes trash such as you pariahs even amongst the inhuman group of traitors you call your peers –or more like Piers–is well displayed in your latest “posting”. If verbal vomit can be designated as a literary effort.

    All the more inappropriate since your own “constructive” abilities consist of putting your mark for treason with the reflexive spite and venom of a semi-sentient tarantula on cocaine.

    You are scum.

  9. Labour:

    “Leaving the EU is an act of economic self harm!”

    Also Labour:

    “Vote for us! We’ll end neoloiberalism, stop competition cos it’s unfair, allocate resources according to need (etc.)”

  10. John Square – not allocate resources based on need, allocate based on buying off those they want to buy off.
    New aircraft carrier anyone? How about more money for the NHS (sorry, for staff)?
    Need can be rather different than the perception the politicians have.

  11. “For many years Britons and Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance.”

    It’s a long time since I met a Yank ready to stick up for their quality of governance.

    The British might be a bit delusional on this topic; a comparison with EU governance does set the bar rather low. On the other hand, if “governance” extends to the courts we are easy winners. The US courts seem to be somewhere between pretty and thoroughly corrupt whereas ours seem to be at worst too often stupid.

  12. See Newmania’s dyslexia’s asserting itself again.

    “For many years Britons and Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance.”

    Yeah. Right. The governing class taken a once world power firmly in the direction of being a third-world shithole with prospects of Venezuela on the horizon. Enormously proud.

  13. “For many years Britons and Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance.”

    That must be why the left in both countries have been full steam ahead trying to turn them into third-world shitholes.

  14. Bloody Hell, Hezza’s still alive? Where’s the Liverpool Care Pathway when you need it?

    Re: the jug-eared international banana fancier. We should’ve imposed an Ecksian solution on his communist infiltrator father, but alas.

    Within the EU, there is a battle to hold Hungary and Poland to their commitments, and Brexit weakens that effort.

    Let’s be clear: the EU is trying to force Poland and Hungary to displace their own people in favour of Third World Muslims who the Poles and Hungarians neither want or need. That is all.

    After the mass rapes, shootings and bombings in Western Europe, not to mention the daily, grinding violence and intimidation which followers of Mahound inflict on any society lucky enough to have them, the EU is deliberately and with malice aforethought seeking to ensure Polish and Hungarian women and children are no longer safe in their own countries.

    This is what the fruit masturbator means when he talks of “human rights and blah blah blah and social justice innit”.

    At this point no adult with an IQ over room temperature is unaware of the consequences of supporting immigrant invasion. We lost our buy-the-world-a-Coke innocence about the awesomeness of living with primitive foreign tribesmen somewhere between 7th July 2005, Rotherham, and the now-annual Ramadan murderthons. (“Part and parcel of living in a big city! Sometimes you pop out to the shops and come back missing a limb courtesy of people you’re paying taxes to house and feed, amiright?”)

    Therefore, they are complicit in those consequences. The inevitable conclusion is that David Miliband wants your kids to be groomed by drug-pushing taxi drivers or scraped off the streets for daring to go to a concert.

    Why? It doesn’t matter why, and I’m no trick cyclist anyway.

    But Brexit – which is like a crucifix made of garlic to these parasitic bloodsuckers – can’t come fast enough, for it’s clear that getting out of the EU madhouse is a necessary, though not sufficient, precondition for our nation’s survival.

  15. @John Miller, August 13, 2017 at 7:54 am

    Labour were so wonderful at negotiating.

    Especially if you were a GP.

    or as Gareth Too mentions: French – CAP reform & UK rebate.

    or allowing vertical integration in gas/electricity market.

    or…

  16. ‘Americans have been proud of the quality of their governance’

    Yeah, that’s why Americans voted out the governance in favor of a New York real estate developer.

    And you Brits voted FOR Brexit.

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