As the Senior Lecturer tells us about the EU

It’s a little shocking to have arrived tonight in a country where the second richest man, who is the subject of fraud allegations and does appear to have at one time been an agent for the communist secret police, has won a general election as leader of a far-right, anti-EU, populist political party, but that is the Czech Republic’s new reality.

Containing the threat such politicians pose to democracy in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere, is also one of the new roles for the EU. And it is another reason why the UK should be in membership.

The EU: Existing to make sure the uppity proles can’t have what they vote for.

48 comments on “As the Senior Lecturer tells us about the EU

  1. “does appear to have at one time been an agent for the communist secret police”

    Is he getting him muddled up with Angela?

    Anyway I thought the Eastern Bloc was the very epitome of social justice and democracy? Isn’t that what Jezza and his mates keep telling us? That everything was peachy under Communism? Why would it be a bad thing to be aligned with such paragons of virtue?

  2. Of course in the cankerous tuber’s utopia, the secret police will be an important element for coercion, control and enforcement so why so fastidious?

  3. Andrew C

    Far-right now seems to run from around Social Democrat rightwards.

    If you ain’t on the bandwagon, you are Far Right!

  4. Tim,

    I’m surprised he’s deigned to be in the same country as you or did he insist that you were removed before he would take part in whatever it is he is doing?

    (For newcomers, Spud was dues to take part in a panel but threw his teddy bear out of the pram when he learned Tim had been invited and insisted he wouldn’t attend if Tim did)

  5. Oh he can share notes with Merjek.

    I bet the esteemed polytech lecturer never critised Angela. Bet he approves if her and we shouldn’t say nasty things just because free speech has been banned online in Germany.

  6. Rarely have I seen anyone whose writings are so replete with cliché words like far-right, neoliberal and candidly.

    Murphy has the vocabulary of a ten year old child

  7. ‘An agent for the communist secret police, has won a general election as leader of a far-right, anti-EU, populist political party’

    If he had won the election as leader of a left wing political party that would of course have been absolutely marvellous.

  8. Leftards use words like ‘democracy’ because you care. They don’t. As shown here by Murphy, he DOESN’T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS!

  9. There are many possible explanations as to why Babis is alleged to have collaborated with the secret police of which the most obvious and most likely is that it is a lie by his opponents to discredit him and lower the number of votes that his party might gain.
    One of the least likely is that it is an honest mistake.
    Possibly he was coerced to collaborate and this has created a visceral hatred of comminism.
    Possibly he, like Goerge Orwell, initially believed in Communism until he discovered its reality. “Homage to Catalonia” was followed by “Animal Farm” and “1984” – in that case he could be a mirror image of Murphy who promoted tax avoidance until he “saw the light” and got funding from the trade union for tax inspectors.

  10. If all the people that lying lefty arseholes say are far-right were actually far-right then said lefty arseholes would be in the gulag or worse.

    The number of far-right political groups with any significant mandate in Europe is zero.

  11. i note that he says the eu will link subsidies to the democratic vote – ie don’t vote the “right way” and you’ll get no money. No wonder mr potatohead loves the eu so much- as he believes he’s on the “right side”. Vile man with no compunction on forcing his views upon others . Whilst we’re killing off the jihadis perhaps someones trigger finger can slip ?

  12. I am far-right of course, but only because I’ve been driven to it. I started off as a liberal, but then leftcunts destroyed what that meant. Then I flirted with libertarianism, but sadly it has no ammo for the culture wars. I’d like to be a slightly doubting Christian conservative, in a nice village somewhere, but the CofE makes me retch and I need access to vicious pursuits.

    Now, build me a bonfire of unsold copies of the Guardian and watch me pitchfork the staff and readers on to the flames.

  13. For newcomers, Spud was dues to take part in a panel but threw his teddy bear out of the pram when he learned Tim had been invited and insisted he wouldn’t attend if Tim did

    Face to face on pay-per-view! Can we have some sort of boxing weigh-in?

  14. Containing the threat such politicians pose to democracy in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere, is also one of the new roles for the EU. And it is another reason why the UK should be in membership.

    And yet at least half of the things he demands are not possible whilst being a member of the EU.

  15. There are many possible explanations as to why Babis is alleged to have collaborated with the secret police of which the most obvious and most likely is that it is a lie by his opponents…

    There’s only one explanation, which is that he appears in secret police files as their agent.

    He denies it, and some former secret policemen have testified that he wasn’t knowingly an agent.

  16. @ SJW
    PS Tim seems to distrust Mr Babis and I know nothing about him – I was just dealing with the comment

  17. What does Murphy make of NZ democracy where a “far right, populist party” led by a fruit loop has enabled Labour and the Greens to form a government and leave out the party most people voted for?

  18. I’m happy to accept that we bar politicans if they have some Communism, or Communist collaboration, in their past. But this does mean that half the politicians in Europe would be out on their ears.

  19. “Social Justice Warrior

    “There are many possible explanations as to why Babis is alleged to have collaborated with the secret police of which the most obvious and most likely is that it is a lie by his opponents…”

    There’s only one explanation, which is that he appears in secret police files as their agent.”

    I haven’t seen the files. In fact I have no information at all but even I can see that there’s more than one explanation.

    He may not appear in secret police files but someone may be alleging that he does.

    He may be appearing in files that are forgeries.

    He may be appearing in genuine police files where he is listed as something other than an agent but the files have been misunderstood.

    I have, as I say, no personal insight on this. But I doubt you do either.

    If your analysis from afar is so definite and yet so obviously blinkered, you’ll forgive me if I hope no-one ever has the misfortune to have you as a juror.

  20. Long time reader, first time poster. I happened to have arrived for the first time in Prague this morning. Seems quite normal. No shock, no drama. Just people going about business as usual in this beautiful city. Now I have to watch out for a rogue professor of economics. Guess I won’t have any trouble distinguishing him from a ray of sunshine!

  21. MC ” I’d like to be a slightly doubting Christian conservative, in a nice village somewhere, but the CofE makes me retch and I need access to vicious pursuits.”

    +1

  22. An extraordinarily high number of the founders of the Common Market had been members of fascist youth groups, in the 1930s.
    Doesn’t make the EU fascist but it might indicate a trend away from liberal democracy at its core.
    (The book on the subject was I think “The Tainted Source”).

  23. EBiP: Guess I won’t have any trouble distinguishing him from a ray of sunshine!

    Congratulations on your forbearance in not piling in before and on the reference to Plum.

    Do try to dig out and greet the aspiring Lord McTuber if you can.

  24. He may not appear in secret police files but someone may be alleging that he does.

    He does. It’s been the subject of openly reported court hearings. He’s in the files. His defence is that he wasn’t knowingly an agent.

    I have no opinion on the truth of his defence. But there’s no reason to speculate about the source of the allegation.

  25. “The best beer in the world is brewed with Norfolk malt barley

    Period” – polite answer- bollocks.

    Cretin obviously only drinks lager (wife beater?) when he goes to brussels. You can’t educate someone so stupid.

  26. SJW there are enough sources that tell us you could overtly collaborate ;you could refuse and watch and wait while pressure and blackmail built around you ;you could try to equivocate while suspicious rose around you. I am glad I did not have to live in such a world. But I find it harder than you do to be judgmental

  27. ““I flirted with libertarianism, but sadly it has no ammo for the culture wars.”
    @Theo
    “Yup.”

    This is precisely the argument I have with libertarians. They seem to be all intellectual, theoretical libertarians obsessed with how many Ayn Rands could dance on the head of a pin. There’s a complete absence of any tactical plan for taking society in the direction of libertarianism apart from an assault by long winded wittering. It could be a revolutionary movement, attractive to the young disillusioned by the status quo. But there seem to be few libertarians capable of storming even the most insignificant barricade.

  28. Not saying the Conservatives hold any attraction. Seem to be as much the problem rather than any solution. Conservative of what, FFS? They’ve left hardly anything to conserve.

  29. MC “I flirted with libertarianism, but sadly it has no ammo for the culture wars.”

    Exactly right, me too!

  30. BIS: “This is precisely the argument I have with libertarians. They seem to be all intellectual, theoretical libertarians obsessed with how many Ayn Rands could dance on the head of a pin. There’s a complete absence of any tactical plan for taking society in the direction of libertarianism apart from an assault by long winded wittering.”

    See Samizdata for example. Completely useless and obsessed with ideological purity, no matter the practical consequences.

    “It could be a revolutionary movement, attractive to the young disillusioned by the status quo. But there seem to be few libertarians capable of storming even the most insignificant barricade.”

    I don’t think that it could. It is far too vulnerable to more libertarian than thou arguments (completely open borders in the current world, anyone?) and denies the actual reality that people are tribal, especially the enemies of freedom and markets. It is also spectacularly vulnerable to morphing into a hideous form of lefty nonsense whereby ‘freedom’ is enabled via government action such as guaranteeing ‘rights’ or taxing ‘progressively’ (LVT or basic income).

    Frankly libertarianism is both a crock of shit, and worse than useless in the world as it is. It might well work in a racially homogenous geographical area which doesn’t allow massive 3rd world immigration, but that isn’t what we have.

  31. And thus classical liberalism. Informed by the same bits about freedom, social and economic, but pragmatic with it. For example, there’s going to be a welfare system come what may. Thus the argument is about which is the best, or perhaps the least damaging, not shouts about how redistribution is theft.

  32. Who knew that young concrete company execs were key players in the world of internal Soviet espionage?

    It does seem kind of unlikely.

    Lots of Soviet citizens were compromised as “agents” to ensure later compliance by by being made to do something petty but nasty to get a job. Especially if they were posted overseas as Babis was.

  33. “Frankly libertarianism is both a crock of shit…”

    I’ve spent some time with Libertarians, such as Devil’s kitchen, and to hear them say they’re in favour of open borders as it will lead to the end of the welfare state, illustrates a galactic case of cant see the wood for the trees….

    I’ve also met committed Lib’s who are pro EU.

    It strongly reminds me of the classic Orwell quote:

    “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”

  34. Libertarians strike me as being like Marxists but without the Death Camps – given a choice between ideological cohesion and reality, they will choose the cohesion every time.

  35. “The six fingers speed up harvesting.” as someone who has lived in Norfolk a long time (but originates from the NE) the Downham Market end of the county is viewed by the rest of the county as the wierd end. Strange things go on in the fens.

  36. @Rob
    “Libertarians strike me as being like Marxists but without the Death Camps – given a choice between ideological cohesion and reality, they will choose the cohesion every time.”

    I’m not sure that’s a failing. It did, after all, work for the Marxists & is still working for them to a certain extent. But they do know how to sell revolutions & attract revolutionaries. The libertarian intelligentsia couldn’t sell bottled water in the Sahara.

  37. Gary Johnson, standing as a Libertarian candidate got some 4½ million votes in last year’s US Presidential election (which presumably accounts for Hillary “winning the popular vote”).

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