Well, you know, what if the Curajus State isn’t the right idea in the first place?

The pragmatic issues to be faced come in two forms. One required option is a clear statement of what hard Brexit actually means and what planning is needed for it, with a timescale and costing attached. I suppose we can hope that this is what the 58 risk assessments on Brexit might provide, but I am ready to be severely disappointed. What I do know is that in the absence of that information no informed decision other than to stay within the EU can be made. After all, rationally in that absence we are quite literally leaping into the unknown. I stress, I am saying this in the absence of any viable alternative in the situation I describe.

You know, maybe we just do it and let the market take the strain? That being the right way to do most things rather than trying to plan everything?

And it would require the support of a national government created, temporarily, in the national interest.

Ooooh, yes! Let’s have all of the political class on the other side from the majority of those who voted on the issue. That would be Curajus, wouldn’t it?

Whilst doing all that the power of a hopelessly biased press has to be addressed and the BBC has to be allowed to be politically free.

Eh? We should have state propaganda but not the private expression of political thoughts?

We face a political crisis of a scale I have never previously imagined now.

Cometh the hour cometh the man.

18 comments on “Well, you know, what if the Curajus State isn’t the right idea in the first place?

  1. And it would require the support of a national government created, temporarily, in the national interest.

    So there might be somebody who would give me vermine.

    the BBC has to be allowed to be politically free.

    In other words, allowed to express the same biased opinions as him, even though they are already doing so.

    We face a political crisis of a scale I have never previously imagined now.

    Not a student of history then, or he lacks imagination. Both are possible.

  2. This is a blog entry from Samizdata. It is I think an interesting quote.

    Were I in charge all the gang named at the start would get lovely T&S’s within hours.

    “All the while, parallel negotiations have been ongoing between the EU and our more militant Remainers: Blair, Clegg, Clarke, Adonis, Corbyn and more have all been along for meetings with Barnier and Juncker. Calls for a second referendum from senior Remain politicians are now regular. It’s not rocket science to see what is afoot: a co-ordinated effort to offer Britain the most punitive terms imaginable, with which the British will then be presented in a second referendum – crawl back to the EU or face a financially ruinous bill to trade.

    Calls to ‘rule out no deal’ must be understood in this context – it is simply begging the EU to give us the worst possible deal, and everyone knows it. The EU’s apparent concessions in October are simply theatre to keep Theresa May in place – they have no desire to reach a reasonable deal.

    We cannot continue walking into this trap. Instead, we propose the Government starts immediate preparations for reverting to standard global trade, the basis on which both the US and China trade with the EU, and create a ‘WTO transition fund’ with the money the EU is demanding: likely to be around £60 billion or more. Britain does, after all, do more trade with the rest of the world than it does with the EU under the cherished Single Market.

    – Brendan Chilton “

  3. All the while, parallel negotiations have been ongoing between the EU and our more militant Remainers: Blair, Clegg, Clarke, Adonis, Corbyn and more have all been along for meetings with Barnier and Juncker.

    We used to hang people for stuff like this.

  4. This sounds very much like collusion; you know of the sort Trumo is accused of, on the basis on absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

    Except that in this case there is evidence, and the perps are serial offenders.

    Don’t hear the scandal in the left wing press or the BBC… funny that.

    As has been said on more than one occasion, if they didn’t have double standards they’d have no standards at all.

  5. This week’s most serious crisis evahhhhh! From the Sage of Ely:

    That then leads to the existential issues. These also cannot be avoided. Some are glaringly obvious. The future of Ireland is, perhaps, highest on that list, where the consequential issues are so enormous that they hardly bear thinking about,

    I hope you are keeping a list

  6. ‘You know, maybe we just do it and let the market take the strain? That being the right way to do most things rather than trying to plan everything?’

    Indeed. Give the people a date certain, and they will do all their own planning.

    But Ritchie isn’t interested in planning. He is interested in stopping Brexit. His idea is to produce a plan for the purpose of scaring people into stopping it. Hence, any ‘plan’ can be assumed to be Remainiac propaganda.

  7. Mr Ecks second comment wins the thread already! With Tim Newman getting credit for his assist.

    There was speculation by the late Auberon Waugh (in jest no doubt) that Cherie Blair’s removal of the Death penalty was in part motivated to ensure that her husband could not be subject to the previous penalty for treason. Seems he may have been right!! I do believe Corbyn should be hanged but obviously not necessarily for his views on the EU which in fairness have been consistently hostile…

  8. TMB

    I was truly almost knocked off my chair by the superciliousness of the posts. That said,it’s interesting to see that Murphy derives his basic inhumanity from a historical source:

    ‘But that would require a leader with the courage of Michael Collins in Ireland in 1922, knowing all the risks that they would be taking.’

  9. Tim

    ‘ Whilst doing all that the power of a hopelessly biased press has to be addressed and the BBC has to be allowed to be politically free.

    Eh? We should have state propaganda but not the private expression of political thoughts? ‘

    I know you got through the introduction of ‘The Curajus State’ and no further but that is exactly his position. Advertising would be barred (or heavily taxed) except for the state. I can add the direct quote for those thinking I am exaggerating once I get home…..

  10. Via people who work there, I happen to know that the FCA, for one, started planning for a clean Brexit about a week after the vote to leave. I paraphrase, but the conversation went a little like this…

    Me: “I’m sure we’ll get a deal, or at least a EEA-style transition.”

    FCA person: “Probably. But we don’t need to plan for that.”

    DK

  11. You poor Brits seem to be in the final stages of the cost of costing the costs of the costs, of the costs, and so on until you know exactly how many pence are dancing on the pinhead.

    Just go.

    The problem of course is treacherous Tories. But I repeat myself.

  12. If the potato was around in 1939 he’d be urging the government to quadruple the production of white flags and the introduction of compulsory german lessons. Whjy doesnt he take his irish passport and fuck off somewhere – i hear molenbeek is nice this time of year.

  13. I’ve been reading about how our rebate is returned to us by the EU and it’s given me an idea for how we should pay our divorce bill.

    Let’s offer them their £100bn, on the condition they spend it on pro-British propaganda.

    And if they grudgingly agree, let’s create it ex nihilo.

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