Doesn’t government do things well?

The number of people starting apprenticeships has fallen by 59 per cent since the launch of a tax aimed at forcing businesses to invest more in training.

A total of 48,000 began an apprenticeship in the past three months, compared with 117,800 for the same period last year, Department for Education figures show.

Let’s have a policy to increase apprenticeships. The result is a decrease in apprenticeships.

Well done there, well one.

13 comments on “Doesn’t government do things well?

  1. These cunts really piss me off. They don’t need to set any targets for anything, they just need to get the fuck out of the way.

  2. What is worrying is that this government fiasco was all too predictable. People actually in the business of providing and managing training and apprenticeships were warning that serious damage could be done to this sector when the changes were proposed. Another choice example of politicians and civil servants who couldn’t tell a factory floor or logistics depot from a barnyard deciding things off the cuff and without reference to reality.

  3. The problem I’m finding is that people aren’t sure how they can get access to the fund they apparently have available for apprenticeships.

    I’d expect that the fall is basically apprenticeships being deferred until people have worked out how to make sure that they qualify for the funding.

  4. Wasn’t there a lot of abuse of the apprenticeship system, companies basically using it to dodge the minimum wage? E.g. care homes hiring carers as apprentices, but paying lip service to the training requirements, because let’s face it, there’s not much training needed to wipe old folks’ bottoms.

  5. Demetrius: “What is worrying is that this government fiasco was all too predictable.”

    Just like pretty much any government fiasco since the dawn of politics!

  6. Does the article explain the mechanism for this fall? I’d have thought that would be the key thing to focus upon – after all, we probably want to know if the number of young people entering work has shrunk to a third of the previous amount, which is technically possible on the evidence presented?

  7. @Andrew M

    Yes, fact is many (most?) of the so-called “apprenticeship” places needed to go.

    However, I’m not sure that the ones that have gone, are actually the ones we needed to go …

  8. AndrewM,

    You can go to the government’s website and search for them. There’s definitely things that I’d call apprenticeships, but “apprentice team member” at KFC or “bar and waiting apprentice” at a pub are just taking the piss.

    In reality, you’ve got to bring back indentured service. It’s what all the “moar apprenticeships” wankers fail to understand. Apprenticeships were a quid pro quo: you had to repay the training you got by working for that person or company. No company wanting software people is going to spend big money training people in programming. Because that’s not an investment in assets of the company. It’s investment in an individual who can leave in 30 days.

  9. In reality, you’ve got to bring back indentured service.

    My youngest turned down his university place, and has got an apprenticeship instead.To our delight he has an apprenticeship in a Cathedral, employed by the CofE, but paid via Lottery funding. Travel to college in Stratford 8/10 weeks a year is paid for, and he’s paid 160 a week (more than enough if you’re living at home)

    This is all great, but I doubt be’ll be paying back the cost of training in 2 years. He’s learning on the job, but trainees are generally are more hindrance than help.

    He’ll probably stay on after for a few years, but it seems a loss for the organisation (or would be if it wasn’t part of a Lottery scheme). Things that are too good to be true always are.

    Something has to be done: a population of 65 million Whateva Studies graduates, 3 plumbers and 2 carpenters is not going to work.

  10. Most of the plumbers and chippies (and posties!) round here seem to be ex-programmers whose jobs have been outsourced.

  11. Funny how the German government and Chinese do well.Perhaps its our government composed of public school weirdos : the so-called “elites” who make housing unaffordable so people don’t have any money to spend on goods and services.
    People on here should realise that the game’s up for British economy (see Peston in Guardian).

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