Hasn’t the world changed?

Outgoing Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat has defended his decision to delay the introduction of a female lead by saying the show isn’t around to pander to “progressive liberals”.

The argument is over whether the last Dr Who should have been female, rather than the next one will be. But, but, shouldn’t the last one have been as well?

At which point, hasn’t the world changed? That a director has to defend his decision that a male character be played by a male actor?

25 comments on “Hasn’t the world changed?

  1. Well, maybe stop being defensive then. Honestly, it just encourages the SJWs to push even harder.

    Maybe people should try laughing, then ignoring instead?

  2. So the above-average number of gay characters in the series under his tenure weren’t anything to do with ‘progressive pandering ‘?

  3. It’s simple. When the director chooses to include minority characters and actors they want to be seen as socially progressive. When they don’t they object to having their decisions criticised by the same groups they pandered to before. Feed a crocodile, don’t be surprised it comes back.

  4. So the above-average number of gay characters in the series under his tenure weren’t anything to do with ‘progressive pandering ‘?

    Watching a lot of TV these days a naive and clueless young chap would get the distinct impression a solid 25% of any population are a little light on their loafers.

    Rather than the more realistic 1-4% as pointed out in any feckin’ authoritative study you wish to consult.

    Actually, scratch that. Watching ANY TV one would be force-fed that idea.

  5. Oh for the old days of black and white TV, when any complaints about diversity could be fixed with a quick twiddle of the contrast dial.

  6. I’m watching an excellent German TV series called Babylon Berlin at the moment, set in the 1920s. What is so refreshing is they’re not pandering to the SJWs: if it were a BBC production the lead detective in 1920s Berlin would be a mixed-race fellow.

  7. No. That’s the whole point of the BBC. Notice he only said this as he walked out the door.

    And they’ll screw up Who because little boys like male role models, in general. It’s why they don’t make Black Widow toys.

  8. @Tim Newman

    Yes and closer to (your current) home, French cop shows don’t shy away from having black and arab low-life.

  9. Outgoing Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat has defended his decision to delay the introduction of a female lead by saying the show isn’t around to pander to “progressive liberals”.

    Lol. Yes it is. Has be been watching it?

  10. Yes and closer to (your current) home, French cop shows don’t shy away from having black and arab low-life.

    Yup, we’ve discussed that before on here. The French “progressive” attitudes towards minorities would shave Guardian-reading progressives reaching for their smelling salts.

  11. I’ve stopped watching it , which if you know me is surprising. It’s nowt to do with a female Doctor, which could be good if handled well.

    It probably won’t be though, it’ll be ramming the gender, sex lives and ethnicity of the characters down our throats.

    We want to defeat Daleks with a sonic screwdriver, not shag them to defeat.

  12. Star Trek Voyager and Deep Space Nine had female and black captains (respectively), and I don’t recall fans being put off by such. But all the modern Star Trek captains are emasculated, compared to Shatner’s original. The series went from mass-market to geek niche.

  13. “Chibnall, who is best known for his work on the science-fiction series Torchwood and the ITV detective serial Broadchurch”

    Torchwood was a Dr who spin off (and anagram) worth a mention one would think.

  14. I hear Hannah Cockroft is looking for work ….

    Actually it kind of makes sense. She is disabled as well as a woman. On top of which she is an athlete so is probably a lesbian. I don’t watch the Special Olympics so I have no idea of her race but if she was a little bit Vibrant, she would tick virtually all the boxes. If she calls herself Hannah Cockroft EBM she even ticks the dyslexic box too.

  15. But, but, shouldn’t the last one have been as well?

    That is the great thing about Dr Who – he can jump in his police box, go back in time and make sure the last three were all women.

  16. To be accurate. The Doctor Who character is not male. It’s some sort of space-alien reproduces by metamorphosis, apparently. Probably should be played by a caterpillar, truth be known. Acting might be better, as well.

  17. Moffat is a useless twat. Hopefully heading for a future of well-deserved obscurity. No surprise that the twat is a fucking Remainiac. He and Gatiss created a reasonable show in the first two series of “Sherlock” but still managed to let the CM bullshit they are full of fuck the program to rapid destruction thereafter.

    As for Dr Who it has been increasingly CM poison. Capaldi has been ill-served by the clowns creating the show. He could have been an excellent Doctor given good material to work with.

    As for the trendy tranny twaddle –that has killed the show as far as I am concerned. A single episode of Troughton , Pertwee or Baker, wobbly set walls and all, is worth however much money they waste on this female loser.

  18. on the subject of CM Dr Who, did anybody notice that a particularly psychotic Master was a blond man called Harold Saxon. Its made in Wales, were proggy taffies having a larf, or did I see something that’s not there.

  19. johnny bonk–Considering the Hymns to Vibrancy that are the Christmas TV adverts this year I think you have a reasonable grasp on reality.

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