What excellent news this is

Theresa May’s hopes of securing a unique post-Brexit trade deal with the EU were under threat on Saturday night as Brussels said it was coming under international pressure to deny Britain special treatment.

After a week that saw May reach a deal with the EU that will allow Brexit talks to move forward on to future trade relations, EU officials insisted a bespoke deal more favourable to the UK than other non-EU nations was out of the question.

So, whatever we do we cannot have a special trade deal.

Great, tell ’em all to fuck off and go unilaterally free trade then.

20 comments on “What excellent news this is

  1. Given that the treacherous, treasonous MC/CM BluLabour bitch has already sold us out on everything except that which the DUP (God Bless ‘Em) prevented her from selling us out on, the sooner these farcical “negotiations” are brought to collapse the better.

    The Fish-Faced Cow and her little treason gang deserve personal and individual punishment for their antics. I am not going to start on about what form that should take as it will just make me sound crazy.

    But the least we need to ensure is that all of then leave politics with NOTHING. No pension, no compo and no bright future of seats on boards and quangos.

    That must their minimum reward for their treason.

  2. May has just signed an agreement promising that Britain will obey all EU laws and regulations until a new agreement is reached. With the EU Courts having jurisdiction over at least part of the process.

    So no, this is not a good thing. May has given up the right for Britain to do anything unilaterally. What this means is that as long as the EU refuses to agree to anything, Britain remains part of the EU.

  3. “…and go unilaterally free trade then.”

    If unilateral free trade were introduced more or less at a stroke, the carnage in the UK economy would be huge. So such a move is not practical politics. Instead, unilateral free trade would have to be phased in sector by sector – starting, arguably, with food and with the phasing out of agricultural subsidies.

  4. Even if you were right Theo–and you are most likely not–it ain’t about the money. We suffered to beat Adolf–and if we have to take short-term pain to finish forever this gang of CM Globalist scum then so be it. The pain will be no worse than what that cunt Corbin will do if the stupid cow’s antics give him his chance.

    Tho’ most of the damage will been done by your vile gang of blue monkeys who pay to support sell-out scum at the top and who don’t even have the balls to get themselves a say in who IS at the top of the rabble.

  5. If only we had a PM who hadn’t just gone out of her bumbling, occasionally burkha’ed, bumhole-for-a-mouthed way to insult the President of the United States while white knighting for a bunch of people who want her dead, eh?

  6. @Mr Ecks

    Traditionally the punishment for treason was hanging, followed by drawing out the entrails and then quartering the body to distribute as a warning to others.

    Don’t see any reason why this wouldn’t still be valid today. Make sure the quarters are put up around Parliament (especially the Lords).

  7. May is so determined to remain in “power” that she will agree to absolutely anything from the EU. There is no chance of us walking away from any negotiation. All that will happen now is continued humiliation and linitibv of our capacity to act independently. The process has descended into farce.

  8. Ecksy

    “Even if you were right Theo–and you are most likely not–it ain’t about the money.”

    Incomes and jobs are what matter to voters; so it is about money.

    “We suffered to beat Adolf–and if we have to take short-term pain to finish forever this gang of CM Globalist scum then so be it.”

    Most voters don’t see the current political situation or Brexit in your apocalyptic terms. They want the security of a job and an income, which you seem prepared to sacrifice on their behalf for your own ideological satisfaction and for some rather vague future gains. I am afraid you are thinking in very similar terms to the socialists you inveigh against.

    “The pain will be no worse than what that cunt Corbin will do if the stupid cow’s antics give him his chance”

    Perhaps, but how could we know? I doubt that saying Corbyn would have been worse would placate those made unemployed by introducing unilateral free trade overnight. The ensuing Corbyn government would be able to blame free trade for all subsequent problems for years afterwards…

    On the other hand, unilateral free trade in food would bring immediate benefits to every household in the land at relatively little cost, though farmers would suffer.

  9. So Theo–aside from the scaremongering–you really think this stupid bitch is going to give us anything but sell-out after sell-out until fuck all is left of Brexit?

    You might be that deluded. In my local shop just moments ago I spy the fuckwit Sunday Express headline ” Now give us a Trade Deal Mrs May”–which follows up with “After Theresa May’s Triumph in Brussels..” . Even fucking self-delusion doesn’t cover that. They are lying plain and simple. And if the Blue Gang members really are that stupid it is bad news all round.

    On Samizdata some have expressed the opinion that just getting out is what matters and we can wipe our backsides on May’s treasonous sell-out agreements at that time. Perhaps…

  10. The desire for a bespoke deal is, imo, wrapped up in not wanting to cause a stampede for the exit door if UK went for EFTA/EEA, *and* to try and stay synchronised with the EU economy as it wrestles its way towards federalisation without the consent of the public.

    The plan from Spinnelli federalists a few years ago was for a form of Associate Membership with voting rights in Brussels. Set out in the so-called Treaty of Bozar. I think EU wants UK to make the template for that.

  11. I see this as the EU lining up there reason why there will be no trade deal.

    I see the politicians as being weak enough to maintain last week’s agreement without getting a deal.

    They haven’t backed a single one of their desires yet – the EU got all their’s.

  12. On Samizdata some have expressed the opinion that just getting out is what matters and we can wipe our backsides on May’s treasonous sell-out agreements at that time.

    My expectations of Westminster are so low that I’d take this in a heartbeat.

  13. I wish the term ‘farmer’ could be expelled from the language for the next 2 year. It does nothing to distinguish owners of farm land , feck ’em and the subsidies they ride on, and the people hired to work the land who will be still need hiring for whatever land use comes after the carnage.

  14. Ecksy

    I’m not scaremongering – just giving a reasonable assessment of what is currently politically possible.

    And, as I have stated here several times, I regard May with contempt. By nature, she’s a ditherer. I am not even sure that there’ll be a Brexit, but any Brexit would be better than none.

  15. Tim, how exactly does this “unilaterally free trade” thing work? You’ve discussed tariffs before and I accept that they’re not a big problem. But what about the regulatory barriers?

    Consider a container of goods arriving in Calais from Britain. At the moment it can be waved through without any inspections because Britain and France are both in the Single Market. The goods can be inspected in transit or at an approved centre in Britain to ensure that they meet the standards and regulations that apply in both countries so there’s no need for any inspections at the port. If we leave the Single Market and make a trade deal with the EU then that agreement would include mechanisms to continue those arrangements.

    But if there’s no deal then British goods arriving in the EU will have to be inspected at the ports, which will lead to huge delays and lorries queuing for tens of miles around every major port. Some companies (including the major supermarkets) have just-in-time supply chains which cross national borders in the EU and which are only made possible by the rapid movement of goods enabled by the Single Market. The “no deal” outcome breaks those supply chains and means that our trade with the EU shrinks down to the level that the ports can actually manage to inspect on a reasonable timescale, which will be much less than now.

    Then there’s the question of the sector-specific arrangements that particular industries rely on. For example, can we still export chemical products to the EU if we’re out of REACH without any trade deal? What happens to companies that need to move data across the UK/EU boundary if there is no agreement to provide mutual recognition between the EU and UK implementations of GDPR?

    You clearly think that none of this is going to be a big problem, so please explain why. How do you expect it to actually work in practice?

  16. The statement by the EU is a palpable lie. That it is a lie is obvious because (a) if the “other countries” wanted it to be known that they were pressing the EU, they would have told us themselves, otherwise they would have told the EU to keep quiet, (b) the ploy is the oldest negotiating trick in the book (“I can’t offer you a better deal because X won’t let me”) and (c) the EU negotiators are French.

  17. AndrewZ: yes regularity barriers are a huge problem generally not addressed by those advocating the unilateral free trade option.

  18. @ AndrewZ / Tomsmith

    Isn’t the additional administrative burden you envisage born out of bloody-mindedness? The TIR system which extends beyond the EU permits the transport of goods across frontiers without customs inspections.

  19. I’ve not really discussed the regulatory structure. It’s a different question.

    I am, strongly, arguing that we should have no tariff barriers upon imports. Once we agree upon that then by all means let us discuss other things.

    As to “which” regulatory regime, that’s simple enough. Current UK exports to the US meet US standards. Current UK exports to China meet Chinese standards. So? And?

    Those chemicals exports and REACH. OK, so, they’ll have to meet REACH standards then. American ones do today. And?

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