Well done here, don’t you think? Oh, how well done!

As Venezuela Collapses, Children Are Dying of Hunger
For five months, The New York Times tracked 21 public hospitals in Venezuela. Doctors are seeing record numbers of children with severe malnutrition. Hundreds have died.

Isn’t that just a grand achievement for 21 st century socialism?

And how many will own up to thinking they thought it a good idea? Jezza? Owen?

21 comments on “Well done here, don’t you think? Oh, how well done!

  1. “wreckers”. It’s always “wreckers”, imbued with infinite powers to thwart what marxists insist is an inevitable force of nature.

  2. Well, it can’t be all bad. Chavez was a poor guy–walkin’ all over the place–when he took over.
    And now his daughter is worth millions (or is it billions?).

  3. Don’t worry, when all the money is gone and the army finally steps in to make sure the soldiers get fed then there will be a reckoning.

    No doubt Maduro and the other barstewards that have raped and pillaged the place in the name of socialism will escape to some foreign clime to live out the rest of his days in comfort that most Venezuelans will never see again in their lifetime.

    Hanging is (quite literally) too good for them.

  4. Ah well, it wasn’t “true socialism”, so it doesn’t count, see?

    When the flames of socialist revolution turn to dust and ashes you seldom see their original supporters reminding us of the fact, as for “not true socialism”, I wonder what leftist shibboleths they will ignore this time to declare it as “just kleptomaniac state capitalism” or whatever.

    No doubt they will also say “It would have all been different if Hugo Chávez had lived”.

    The reality of course being that if El Puerco had survived things would probably have been a lot worse. One of Nicolás Maduro’s only saving graces being his incompetence and political ineptness, which will hopefully bring his regime to an end sooner rather than later.

  5. The USA is, of course, to blame as it is with all failed socialist regimes.

    We don’t know how, but it is true nonetheless.

    So Jeremy said.

  6. John Galt,

    “No doubt they will also say “It would have all been different if Hugo Chávez had lived”.”

    I was listening to a discussion with one of the authors of this 2014 paper last week:

    We use the synthetic control method to perform a case study of the impact of Hugo Chavez on the Venezuelan economy. We compare outcomes under Chavez’s leadership and polices against a counterfactual of “business as usual”. We find that, relative to our control, per capita income fell dramatically. While poverty, health, and inequality outcomes all improved during the Chavez administration, these outcomes also improved in each of the control cases and thus we cannot attribute the improvements to Chavismo. We conclude that the overall economic consequences of the Chavez administration were bleak.

    Short answer is that Chavez got lucky with oil prices and it looked like Venezuela was doing well under his presidency, but when they went back and compared it to a synthetic control Venezuelans were worse of than they would have been if the politics had stayed the same.

    The way they created the control, the first half of the podcast, is quite interesting and worth a listen as well if you don’t want to read the paper.

  7. “Hanging is (quite literally) too good for them.”

    And while they’re at it they should include the useful idiots from the west who cheered Chavez and his cronies.

  8. John Galt:
    > No doubt Maduro and the other barstewards that have raped and pillaged the place in the name of socialism will escape to some foreign clime to live out the rest of his days in comfort that most Venezuelans will never see again in their lifetime.

    Unless the Venezuelan right can physically remove the incredibly low quality Columbian immigrants Chavez brought in to leech off the state and vote for him, that comfort’s gone for good.

    I’m not sure I share your pessimism about Maduro not meeting justice however. The way that good leaders like Pinochet and that nice Croatian man have been treated by the communist world system after peacefully giving up power is going to change attitudes. Hopefully, there will be no more silly giving up of power to media-controlled, universal suffrage democracy. And more retaliatory actions against evil people, as when Stalin killed that communist bastard Trotsky.

  9. The problem here is that “business as usual” for Venezuela would have meant the typical sort of oligarchical collective of the usual “Men of Always” that rules most South American countries.

    Thus Hugo Chávez using a temporary spike in oil prices to do a Venezuelan impression of Juan Perón with a socialist tint probably isn’t too different, at least at first.

    That’s the thing about Socialism in practice, it takes a while to get going, but when it gets going it wipes all away before it.

    The other thing is that while the analysts might focus on “reducing income inequality”, I’m a bit more focused on “How many people were killed or starved to death”.

    Focus and weighting are important in any analysis.

  10. @John Galt, December 17, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    …No doubt they will also say “It would have all been different if Hugo Chávez had lived”.

    Plus blaming Global Warming, Fracking (irony) and POTUS Trump.

  11. If conversations with socialists I know are any guide, apparently, it’s Bolivia that is the latest proof that Socialism works, not Venezuela. I did ask if they could let me know for how long, and where would be up next on the list so I could be sure to begin my divestiture in time but apparently I’m not ‘funny’ and ‘brain dead Tory scum’.

    Which, as anyone who has had the misfortune to meet Harry Haddock in person will testify, is so very wide of the mark as to be comical. But, hey, if you’re not in the revolution, your an enemy of the revolution, etc etc.

  12. ‘Thanks Hugo Chavez for showing that the poor matter and wealth can be shared. He made massive contributions to Venezuela & a very wide world’

    2:19 PM – 5 Mar 2013

    Jeremy Corbyn MP

  13. The British are very fond of animals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zocMv3OU2c

    Were this vid by Bill Whittle remade for the UK with Corbog’s name, face and endorsement of Venezuelan socialist tyranny put front and centre , it would do immense damage to Jezza and the gang.

    So where the fuck are the Fish Faced Cow’s BluLabour? As the above should be what they are up to. Instead of being on the hunt for a new suite of unpopular and irrelevant policies to present –still under the FFC–to ensure the next ballot-box disaster.

  14. Don’t forget, this isn’t the failure of socialism, this is the natural outcome of it’s success.

  15. I want Maduro to get a dose of the old Ceaușescus. Up against a wall, gibbering in fear and shitting himself, and then ripped apart by a few hundred rounds of 7.62×39. Prize for whoever shoots that fucking stupid moustache off his face. Then do the Supreme Court and the Attorney General.

  16. @Paul Rain
    “Unless the Venezuelan right can physically remove the incredibly low quality Columbian immigrants Chavez brought in to leech off the state and vote for him, that comfort’s gone for good.”
    Don’t worry starvation should send them back home.
    I think all Venezuelans who can claim Colombian nationality have done so and are leaving now.
    I know a Venezuelan who has Colombian parents, never claimed a Colombian passport and is now.

  17. “Unless the Venezuelan right can physically remove the incredibly low quality Columbian immigrants Chavez brought in to leech off the state and vote for him, that comfort’s gone for good.”

    Thank goodness we in the UK don’t have a similar problem.
    Oh, hang on . . .

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