Dear Miss Bindel

I have heard countless stories like this. Every time a case like the Allan one comes up, it would be easy to assume that scores of women are falsely reporting rape as some sort of revenge or leisure activity, and that our prisons are full of men who are innocent of crimes against women and girls. Bearing in mind that only 6% of rape cases end up with a rape conviction for rape in this country, that would mean that 94% of women thatwho report it are lying, that would mean a vast number of women are lying. If the same amount of fuss was made about every bungled police investigation and criminal trial involving sexual assault where the accused walked free, it would be impossible for the press and social media to keep up.

No, not true. Only 6% of rape allegations end up with a conviction. Not far off the general clear up rate for many other crimes.

Perhaps more importantly, some 6% or so of rape allegations turn out to be false ones. That’s not a hard number but about the best we’ve got.

It’s a difficult subject but using the case of someone who was undoubtedly being railroaded into a rape conviction as an argument that other prosecutions are bungled in favour of the defence ain’t the way to do it. You know, that 100 guilty go free rather than one innocent get jugged?

30 comments on “Dear Miss Bindel

  1. Bearing in mind that only 6% of rape cases end up with a rape conviction for rape in this country

    She’s going to wear out her favourite word.

  2. According to the Marxian creed Bindel spews we’re all rapist so no such thing as a wrongful conviction CAN exist.

    Her bullshit in this article is a variation on the “No woman would falsely report something as heavy/awful as rape etc “.
    In itself long since disproven by the floodtide of tripe accusations around. Esp those against Jimmy Savile. It would be a very long and tedious job to detail more a few of these but there is a small compensating factor that quite a few of them are hilariously stupid and some will definitely cause you to marvel at the human capacity to believe and spread sheer unremitting tripe.

  3. The government, the CPS, the Met all “wanted more rape convictions”.

    Later, Met stitched up the defence in rape cases, claims “lack of resources” (a lack which mysteriously only affected defence evidence, not prosecution evidence).

    Amazed!

  4. Why would a vengeful woman ever make a malicious allegation against a man she hates when she’s guaranteed anonymity by our justice system, has little chance of being prosecuted for lying, and can easily ruin the man’s life in the process? muses the feminist sipping latte from a MALE TEARS mug.

  5. Julie Bindel. The lefts answer to Katie Hopkins.

    Self serving publicist with a C grade intelect, coupled with enough low cunning to build a career writing crappy opinion pieces for a national newspaper

  6. Perhaps more importantly, some 6% or so of rape allegations turn out to be false ones. That’s not a hard number but about the best we’ve got.

    No it isn’t. The FBI has put the figure much higher. As quoted here:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/02/false-rape-accusations-may-be-more-common-than-thought.html

    “Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have “matched” or included the primary suspect.”

    The authors continued, “these percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice’s informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate.”

    So that would be something like between 20 and 40%. Even at Yale, where investigations are hardly fair to male students accused of rape, figures are much higher:

    https://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/14/fifty-percent-of-rape-cases-are-false-jack-montague-yales/

    He also said that the accused is permitted legal representation throughout the process, and that just one in 10 cases culminates in expulsion, while one in five results in no adverse finding and two of five result in a reprimand or probation.

    So something like 60% are found by Yale to be something other than rape.

  7. “That’s not a hard number but about the best we’ve got.”

    I despisethe argument that such-and-such a fiction ‘is the best we’ve got’. Far better to say ‘we don’t have a good number for this and we don’t think it’s possible to get one’. Then proceed on that basis.

  8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#Kanin

    Kanin (1994)

    In 1994, Eugene J. Kanin of Purdue University investigated the incidences of false rape allegations made to the police in one small urban community in the Midwest United States (population 70,000) between 1978 and 1987. He states that unlike in many larger jurisdictions, this police department had the resources to “seriously record and pursue to closure all rape complaints, regardless of their merits”. He further states each investigation “always involves a serious offer to polygraph the complainants and the suspects” and “the complainant must admit that no rape had occurred. She is the sole agent who can say that the rape charge is false”.

    The number of false rape allegations in the studied period was 45; this was 41% of the 109 total complaints filed in this period.[26] The researchers verified, whenever possible, for all of the complainants who recanted their allegations, that their new account of the events matched the accused’s version of events.

    After reviewing the police files, Kanin categorized the false accusations into three broad motivations: alibis, revenge, and attention-seeking. These motivations were assigned prevalence of roughly 50%, 30%, and 20% respectively. This categorization was supported by the details of complainant recantations and other documentation of their cases.

    Kanin also investigated the combined police records of two large Midwestern universities over a three-year period (1986–1988), and found that 50% of the reported forcible rapes were determined to be false accusations (32 of the total 64). No polygraphs were used, the investigations were the sole responsibility of a ranking female officer, and a rape charge was only counted as false under complainant recantation. In this sample, the motivations mentioned above were roughly evenly split between alibi and revenge, with only one case characterized as attention-seeking

    I think a minimum of 40% is reasonable. Although a rural White mid-Western town is likely to have lower rates than many other places.

  9. ‘I think we live in a climate where those who make complaints of rape are generally disbelieved,’

    That’s in your head, Honey.

    ‘and the men guilty of it are generally excused,’

    Wrong. Not if guilty. It’s that they actually have to be guilty that bothers you, Creep.

    ‘or assumed to be innocent.’

    My, God! What a dumbass. The are supposed to be ASSUMED TO BE INNOCENT! She wants them to be ASSUMED TO BE GUILTY!

    The presumption of innocence bothers her. The fact that allegations have to actually be proved bothers her. She is a sick puppy.

    ‘Julie Bindel . . . a founder of Justice for Women’

    Note she is not for justice. Justice for women is not justice.

  10. “Kanin categorized the false accusations into three broad motivations: alibis …”: I wonder what that means? Perhaps that the girls get accused of misbehaviour and say “It’s not my fault, Pa, I was raped”?

  11. dearieme – “I wonder what that means? Perhaps that the girls get accused of misbehaviour and say “It’s not my fault, Pa, I was raped”?”

    Yeah pretty much. I guess. There have been a number of incidents where girls have been out past an acceptable curfew and they have ripped their shirt, rolled in the dirt a little, and said “Daddy I have been raped by some Black men”. One last week in fact.

  12. Dear Tim, using your math it would seem that not 6%, but 94% of rape allegations turn out to be, if not false, then lacking sufficient evidence for a conviction.

  13. I despisethe argument that such-and-such a fiction ‘is the best we’ve got’. Far better to say ‘we don’t have a good number for this and we don’t think it’s possible to get one’. Then proceed on that basis

    Absolutely. You wouldn’t say to someone “what are the odds on us surviving this dangerous act we are contemplating”, they reply “Er, 1/10? Not sure really” and then you say “OK, let’s go with it as these figures are the best we’ve got”.

  14. Bindel would only be happy with a sort of reverse Sharia principle for rape of a female.

    A woman saying three times that a man raped her is sufficient for conviction.

    A woman’s evidence can only be refuted by contrary evidence from three or more men

  15. “…after the collapse of a second trial within a week because of police failure to disclose evidence that might have undermined the prosecution.”

    Oh no “might” about it Julie. He was innocent and the withheld evidence proved she was lying.

  16. Thay said, I wouldn’t trust any source produced by SMFS. His academic methods descend from the Eugenics of the Nazis in the early 29th Century.

  17. Women lie all the time. Women who have been told they can shag about like men with no regrets, who then find out they cannot. Lie to cover up their regret and pain.

  18. Excellent links from the peerless SMFS

    I would hazard given the deleterious impact of radical feminism the number of false accusations is well above 6% – certainly nearer the 50% mark and many would argue above that level….

  19. His academic methods descend from the Eugenics of the Nazis in the early 29th Century.

    They laughed at Hitler with his “thousand year Reich”, but who is laughing now?

  20. You know, that 100 guilty go free rather than one innocent get jugged

    And there is your problem. Bindel and her ilk are more than happy for innocent men to go to gaol. Being men is enough for them.

  21. I wouldn’t go that far Longrider. Popular knowledge of such a percentage would be hard to hide.

    A significant number of false rape complaints don’t involve a complaint against a person. They waste police time trying to track down non-existent perps. We had our town on the lookout for a non-existant perp dragging people into a van thanks to a lady with mental issues.

    A lot of the others are so borderline that it is hard to know. A guy who treats his woman badly is hard to prosecute, but easier with a rape claim. He might not be technically guilty of rape, but that does not make him innocent.

    And then there are the outright fabrications.

    One side effect of the “always believe the claim” is that it sets up a noteworthy story when the claim is false. Such stories used to slide by, since fake claims are hardly new in crime.

  22. ‘Perhaps more importantly, some 6% or so of rape allegations turn out to be false ones.’

    Wut? Why would they need to be true?

  23. Ironman – “Thay said, I wouldn’t trust any source produced by SMFS. His academic methods descend from the Eugenics of the Nazis in the early 29th Century.”

    Nazis from the early 29th Century? As Brian Blessed would say GORDON’S ALIVE?! Well, perhaps not Gordon.

    But yeah. The Innocence Project. Well known Nazis. And the FBI. And Perdue University. How do these evil minions of Ming the Merciless get into every institution in the West?

    By the way, eugenics may be immoral but it is not wrong. IQs have been dropping in the West for decades.

  24. It’s now three cases (that we know of).

    The young Tory aide has just had his case dropped when the CPS disclosed that the ‘victim’ had refused to hand over her phone records for NINE MONTHS. In anyone else, this would ring alarm bells. But not plod.

  25. JuliaM – “The young Tory aide has just had his case dropped when the CPS disclosed that the ‘victim’ had refused to hand over her phone records for NINE MONTHS. In anyone else, this would ring alarm bells. But not plod.”

    You know, no one has more contempt for the way sex crimes are dealt with these days, no one has more contempt for the incompetence, the hysteria, the political extremism …. but this is beginning to be a bit like deja vu all over again.

    Titus Oates accused six dozen Catholics of plotting against the King. For which he was loaded with honours and money. Then he accused the King’s brother. And only then did it turn out he had been lying all along and he was lucky to escape a judicial execution.

    I have always had my doubts about those he accused. Still, what’s the chances that the police did nothing wrong whatsoever until they started crossing members of the present government?

    (Oates was let out of prison and given a large pension by William and Mary. So I wonder, perhaps he wasn’t lying?)

  26. @ Chester Draws – “I wouldn’t go that far Longrider. Popular knowledge of such a percentage would be hard to hide.”

    I was quoting the ATL post 😉 Usually, the quote is ten guilty men go free than one innocent convicted (Blackstone’s Formulation).

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