Wibble matey, pure wibble

The BBC must bring down the pay of its top journalists, the new Culture Secretary has said, arguing that it is unacceptable for the corporation’s foreign editors to earn more than British ambassadors to the same countries.

Note that this idiot is nominally a Tory.

40 comments on “Wibble matey, pure wibble

  1. I don’t see the problem. The BBC aren’t a private, free-market organisation. They’re tax funded, and I seriously doubt anyone else’s China editor is on £150k.

  2. Is there a method where the people who pay for the BBC ( the licence payer ) get to indirectly decide what they are worth?
    Making the board accountable to the licence fee payer, letting the board set the fee, that sort of thing.
    While it’s a State broadcaster then it does seem to be the business of the relevant govt department, imv.

  3. Well, the argument is that it’s public money paying both salaries.

    The BBC staff are quick to bleat about how they are doing a public service, then they want commercial pay.

  4. I agree with the first three comments above.

    By the way, Hancock wears cheap-looking and ill-fitting suits, which give him are rather spivvy appearance.

  5. The BBC needs to put out of existence in 24 hours flat.

    The ordinary folk–techs, tea lady –should get compo.

    The boss class, luvvies, lying so-called “journalists” ie left-spewers go with nothing and pensions confiscated.

    Job done and no more worries about who is earning what.

    Nowt IS a universal constant after all.

  6. By the way, Hancock wears cheap-looking and ill-fitting suits, which give him are rather spivvy appearance.

    As do the vast majority of people in the media and politics.

    I can never understand why people who appear on TV and make gobs of cash turn out in such god awful suits. Isn’t the city of London one of the homes of sartorial excellence?

    And isn’t there a wife or boyfriend at home nagging them to ditch the 10-year-old Penney’s tie?

  7. I’m guessing at £135K Carrie Gracie thought she was already being paid a mint (and as a Mando speaker, with advantages). Until she found out others had negotiated better for speaking English in a better place to live!

    Alternatively, Ritchie got a grand for talking to ITN for a day. As he blogged he was disgusted at Gracie’s treatment, I assume he’ll be paying back £600 to make his pay the same.

  8. Why was the lazy bitch Gracie not topping up her earnings offering TEFL courses in China, like any other native Brit abroad who wants more cash and has no significant marketable skills?

  9. ” I seriously doubt anyone else’s China editor is on £150k.”

    Not quite the right comparison but what would a leading newspaper’s China correspondent be on? They’re not expected to be telly-presentable so you’d expect it to be less than the TV folks. But there are not very many TV news networks, and the alternative to working for them (which will often include writing for their website anyway) is writing for a paper. Obviously lots of papers have shut down their foreign bureaux so there may not be many rules in that either…

  10. Noel Scoper said: “I’m guessing at £135K Carrie Gracie thought she was already being paid a mint (and as a Mando speaker, with advantages). Until she found out others had negotiated better for speaking English in a better place to live!”

    And with higher living costs.

  11. I strongly disagree with you for once Tim.
    I really don’t see how the BBC can justify its salaries. Does anyone really think that Ed Mair could walk out of the BBC and get £300k anywhere else?
    You could probably pay Raheem Kassem £100k and he would do it and be a lot better.
    These are not footballers who no one else can replace, but lucky rent seekers.
    The BBC is meant to be our BBC – well they should start paying salaries that we find acceptable.

  12. “How much of Ms Gracie’s salary was tax free given she was living ex-pat?”

    Interesting point, given she’s working for a large multinational with people all over the world on secondment, I guess the BBC is used to handling such tax issues.

    Was she UK paid, and UK taxed with the BBC handling the China tax (due if she stayed over 182 days) and dealing with double taxation? Did the BBC pay for her accommodation, travel and other benefits. Is what is reported as salary the whole package? Or was she UK non-resident and paying China tax only?

  13. @Noel Scoper

    I suspect that Ms. Gracie and the BBC aren’t at all keen to elaborate residence related tax affairs and expenses / per diem arrangements.

    It reminds me that Brussels / Strasbourg EU officials have some curious taxation arrangements.

  14. I rather agree with whoever it was who enquired “How many people have ever said ‘I’m not watching Match of the Day tonight because Lineker is not on it?'”

    I can’t imagine a footie “host” so awful that people are paralysed into inability to use the mute button. Many of us footie and rugby fans probably use the mute button pretty freely anyway. And the ‘not watching the programme until kick-off’ strategy too.

    Come to think of it, we all have channel controllers. Couldn’t we use them in a rolling referendum on BBC pay? I’ll vote that Shearer gets nowt. Clear off, Shearer, you boor.

  15. I suspect she’s paying Chinese income tax, which, with 2 minutes of looking on Google doesn’t seem to be too dissimilar to UK income tax. But then I also don’t know what the social security arrangements are like compared to NI.

    But, she’s being paid a fair wodge in a low cost of living country. She probably indeed thought she was minting it. And frankly, for what she’s doing, she really is.

  16. dearieme

    I vote for all fvcking football pundits to be replaced by Ron Manager and his colleagues from the Fast Show at Fast Show wages. At least then we would be entertained by gems like below. Might even persuade me to start to watch the footie on telly again.

    “Oh, those Brazilians, you know? Circa 1970? Broke the mould. Theory out the window. Free expression of football. Uncategorisable. Is that a word? It is now! You know? Far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Rush goalie. Two at the back, three in the middle, four up front, one’s gone home for his tea. Beans on toast? Possibly, don’t quote me on that. Marvellous.”

  17. Tedious Luvvy Jug Ears apparently “earns” circa £1.7-1.8 million a year. I suspect Ron Atkinson used to get quite a lot less for his commentary….

    Bongo – It’s an excellent idea, but – as it it isn’t going to happen – I think prefer my method: withold payment?

  18. I think the BBC think of themselves as an extension to the Royal Family and are justified in expecting the public to throw unlimited funds at them.

    Its la la land salaries and benefits.

    Over £2 million for Chris Evans for being a whacky funster on Radio 2 for crying out loud

    Its public money Tim…the folk who spend the money for us have a right to say shit.

  19. There are, in fact, no Tories in the Conservative Party.

    We have a choice at the moment between feeble Socialists and mad, racist, cretinous Marxists.

  20. More to the point, what does a Culture Secretary do, FFS?

    Do we really need one? If so, is he worth £150k plus (tax free) expenses (fiddle) of at least £100k?

    I think not.

  21. I get fed up with this top line salary comparison approach. The total compensation is what counts so let’s look at pensions. Women live quite a bit longer than men. The BBC has a defined benefit scheme that is worth more to a demographic that lives longer. Pay gap? Smaller than you think.

    Mind you the total comp calculation needs to be revealed here including all cash and non-cash comp like her airline tickets back home in business class and the housing, car, school fees etc etc. Not many get that deal nowadays as most firms have moved to a local contract equivalent basis.

  22. If these ambassadors want to earn more, they have to DO more. If those foreign correspondants need to earn less, they need to DO less.

    What they actually mean is that they must be ****PAID**** more/less regardless of what they earn.

  23. @ Rob Fisher

    I was thinking just the same. Who gives a fuck about plastic bags? I supposes someone does but christallfuckingmighty it shouldn’t be the PM getting involved.

  24. anon
    “January 10, 2018 at 10:53 am

    I strongly disagree with you for once Tim.
    I really don’t see how the BBC can justify its salaries. ”

    You could say the same thing about the ambassadorship – its not like there aren’t multiple qualified people desperately chasing after a limited number of posts.

  25. RF/AC–The Fish Faced Cow seems to be on a search for the most stupid and irrelevant policies that she and BluLab can waste their time on.

    Julia M retweeted something the other day about how the stupid bitch is planning some bullshit about planting a “Great Northern Forest” between Liverpool and I-forget-where in the North-East. As Julia aptly commented “Is she having a breakdown?”. It would take decades to grow such a forest–which is as well as otherwise McNasty would be able to use it for Katyn style mass grave pits once the killing starts under he and Corbog.

    The Fuckwit May must be the most useless leader since Nicholas II. She can’t even reshuffle her own clowns.

  26. Taiwan seems to do all right without any ambassadors. They’ve got a few representative offices though, which I guess are a bit like chambers of commerce, and presumably the salaries aren’t as high, and they don’t bung them an extra 20k plus a year per child for private education back in the home country.

  27. @
    Andrew C, January 10, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    @ Rob Fisher

    I was thinking just the same. Who gives a fuck about plastic bags? I supposes someone does but christallfuckingmighty it shouldn’t be the PM getting involved.

    +1 Our MPs should be telling voters UK plastic is not the problem, problem comes from African & Asian countries.

    What should we do with our waste plastic?

    Burn it to generate electricity as Germany, Holland, Norway, Sweden and more do, Newcastle/North East ship theirs to Sweden to be burnt – and pay Sweden to take the fuel.

  28. @Mr Ecks, January 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    Very true. However, her bungling does mean useless Justine Greening has gone to back-benches to howl & cry with Morgan, Soubry & Wollaston

  29. “Other nominally Tory idiots are wibbling on about plastic bags again, I notice.”

    “Julia M retweeted something the other day about how the stupid bitch is planning some bullshit about planting a “Great Northern Forest” between Liverpool and I-forget-where in the North-East. ”

    They’re one nation conservatives, who are just wankers. They’re chasing votes with a big pile of nothing, after people who will never vote for them anyway.

  30. “They’re one nation conservatives, who are just wankers. They’re chasing votes with a big pile of nothing, after people who will never vote for them anyway.”

    To be fair I think the Tory (ha ha) manifesto did attract some new votes in the north. But you’re never going to win elections by attracting a few hundreds or even a thousand Labour voters in constituencies where the Labour candidate gets 70% or more of the vote. Its just wasted effort, especially if you’ve pissed off core voters in southern marginals.

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