There’s a massive amusement here

Thirteen Russians have been criminally charged for interfering in the 2016 US election to help Donald Trump, the office of Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced on Friday.

Mueller’s office said 13 Russians and three Russian entities, including the notorious state-backed “troll farm” the Internet Research Agency, had been indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington DC.

A 37-page indictment alleged that the Russians’ operations “included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J Trump … and disparaging Hillary Clinton,” his Democratic opponent.

That being this:

VANCOUVER, British Columbia, April 3— As President Clinton and President Boris N. Yeltsin of Russia began their first summit meeting today, Mr. Clinton presented the Russian leader with some $1 billion in American aid programs intended to support Russian democrats and spur the Western allies to make Russian reform their top foreign policy priority.

Among the new or expanded programs in the package were loan guarantees to build apartments for demobilized Russian soldiers; loans for Russian entrepreneurs; medical supplies, food and grain assistance; funds to help the Russian Government sell state-owned industries, and technical advisers to help repair pipelines and oil wells and begin exporting again.

Mr. Clinton said the package was intended to help promote free-market skills on a grass-roots level in both Moscow and the Russian countryside, so the movement toward democratic reform would continue no matter who governs in the Kremlin.

Clinton, B, intervened massively (and correctly but still….) in Russian politics. If Yeltsin hadn’t won then Putin wouldn’t be there now. Putin intervened and the allegation – among the more screaming nutjobs at least, the report and indictment don’t claim it at all – that thus Clinton, H, lost.

Why is it OK for us and not for them? And, B and H, isn’t it amusing?

28 comments on “There’s a massive amusement here

  1. Mueller and his gang need to shut down double quick.

    Although they merely serve to humiliate themselves with this nonsense they are an engine of unreason and indeed absolute unreality too near the centre of power. If Mullo had issued arrest warrants for 6 Martians and the Easter Bunny he could hardly be any more deluded than he is.

  2. This is just a pathetic effort at saving face. A year and a half and they have found nothing but Hillary’s fingerprints. So they throw out a few token indictments and claim victory.

    I would like to see those 13 Russians turn up at JFK and ask to be arrested. What are they going to be charged with? Malicious exercise of the First Amendment? Aggravated use of Facebook?

    But it is interesting to see that the Deep State is willing to trash America’s relations with Russia, such as they are, in order to cover Hillary’s Mississippi-wide ar$e. The arrogance.

  3. This is desperate:

    ” Two Trump campaign advisers have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Two others have been charged with federal crimes.”

    Apparently they didn’t tell the FBI about contacts with Russian officials because the Justice Department told them not to, and the ‘Federal crimes’ are about not declaring foreign income to the IRS – nothing to do with President Trump or Russia.

  4. Mueller is by instinct a hunter. He’s been set to hunt a unicorn. Since he can’t find one he’s going after rabbits.
    As far as I can gather the indictments refer to interference in the election, not particularly in favour of Trump. And they are pretty pathetic.
    No-one seems to be asking why Putin would favour Trump. He wanted increased US oil and gas production? He wanted a stronger US military? Doesn’t make sense does it. But I bet he loves political chaos, which the Dems and the media are helping him to stir up.

  5. This bullshit is purely for the media to run with. Everyone knows it’s fabricated nonsense but they want the headlines for use in anti-Trump ads next election.

    Mueller should be investigated now. He’s as dirty as the rest of them an even a little looking around would be enough to put him in prison.

  6. This output should have been expected after Trey Gowdy expressed full confidence in Mueller last month, telling critics to back off. Gowdy knew that nothing-to-see was coming.

    There’s a small chance that charging the hard-to-reach Martians and Easter Bunny (thanks, Ecks) is an attempt to keep the investigation rolling, but I think it’s more likely this is part of all sides disengaging relatively intact. If so, I would now expect to see leaderships attempt to calm their respective zealots (on this issue).

    The 2016 election might be almost over.

  7. An indictment of the government.

    I don’t know what Mueller’s game is. It would seem to me these silly Russian games are beneath the purpose of a special prosecutor. It appears the Russian antics didn’t change a single vote. He has cheapened his status.

    BWTM. As Tim says, the U.S. and its agencies interfere with elections around the world, openly and notoriously. Obama interfered with Brexit.

    I hope Trump uses this to embarrass the Left for years to come. Though being a Lefty means never having to say you are sorry.

  8. Hector – and that worked out so well that even outspending her opponent considerably the democrat could not win.
    The rest of us with a twitter account didn’t tell the Americans to vote.

    Just out of interest, have they found these americans whose votes were available to be changed based on tweets by foreigners?

  9. @Gamecock

    “..the U.S. and its agencies interfere with elections around the world, openly and notoriously.”

    Didn’t the Guardian try to influence the result of the US Presidential election? Expect indictments naming Rusbridger and co. any day now…

  10. Gamecock – Mueller’s game, his entire game, is chess, in which if you are besieged in the center of the board, you create a fracas on one edge to make your opponent waste a move. Mueller’s goal is to give the Democratic Party control of what is talked about every evening on the network news, denying Trump traction for any policy achievement.

    These indictments could have been issued any day, and the reason to release them now is to divert from the news that the FBI should have known that the Florida high-school massacre was just a matter of time, and dithered away.

    Pat – Of course Putin didn’t favor Trump. Hillary was already neatly bought and paid for with speaking fees. And blackmailable.

  11. The NY Times is owned by a holding company controlled by a Mexican citizen. I really hope Atty.Gen Session indicts their editorial board for the same crime.

  12. re:Mueller

    The Mike Flynn business is looking interesting – the first judge recused himself (*after* accepting the plea … )

    – the new judge has formally demanded all discoverable evidence be delivered to the defense team… – and hence casts doubt on the plea…. because he can see that Mueller’s people have withheld evidence?

    – there are also rumors that the original judge was involved in OK-ing the first FISA warrants.

    The rolling shitshow has a while to go yet.

    US network news is taking an audience pasting – CNN is down 30% on same time last year…. It may well end up with Mueller playing to an empty amphitheater with a bunch of folk stood side-stage with arms folded waiting for him to do a Cathy Newperson.

  13. It is a little known fact that Democrats hate and despise Russia in particular and communists generally, whereas the millions of Mid-Westerners with Facebook and Twitter accounts just adore them.

    In fact, Bob, here’s a tip for free. Just publish stats from Walmart about the sudden increase in popularity of borscht, pelmeni and pirozhki. Just trying to help.

  14. The Unused Testicle – “It is a little known fact that Democrats hate and despise Russia in particular and communists generally, whereas the millions of Mid-Westerners with Facebook and Twitter accounts just adore them.”

    The Soviet Union largely bankrolled the Vietnam War protests – in Britain as well as in America. I await for the surviving members of the Students for a Democratic Society to be charged.

    I am so old that I can remember the Democrats being proud of taking Moscow’s help.

  15. The FBI failed to stop 9/11, failed to protect the Florida schoolchildren, failed properly to investigate Heilary’s server, …

    All it seems to have achieved in recent years was the murder of the Chechen chap who was a witness to the lives of the alleged Boston Bombers, and arrant misbehaviour and lying over the Bundy affair. Its investigation of the Las Vegas massacre has impressed no one so far. It might even fail in its attempted slow motion coup against Trump.

    Is it representative of the level of competence of the federal government?

  16. Didn’t the Guardian try to influence the result of the US Presidential election?

    The hilarious Operation Cook County, I believe.

  17. @Pat, February 17, 2018 at 11:53 am

    No-one seems to be asking why Putin would favour Trump.

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    @Spike, February 17, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    Pat – Of course Putin didn’t favor Trump. Hillary was already neatly bought and paid for with speaking fees. And blackmailable.

    Spike beat me to it. Putin would have preferred Hellary as he could blackmail her.

  18. The point of VoA is to influence opinions and politics in other countries?

    Presumably the FBI will be happy to hand them over to the Russians if requested by Moscow?

  19. ‘Mueller’s office said 13 Russians and three Russian entities, including the notorious state-backed “troll farm” the Internet Research Agency, had been indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington DC.’

    Indicting Russian citizens accomplishes what? They can’t take their families to Disney World anymore? I doubt the U.S. even requests extradition, such a waste of time it would be.

  20. “I doubt the U.S. even requests extradition, such a waste of time it would be.”

    Thanks to that little barking poodle Bliar the Yanks could demand the handover of 003.5 Steele with no problem..

    Don’t hold your breath tho’.

  21. Over a year on and the farce continues

    Mueller’s Investigation A Farce: Files Joke Indictment Against Russian Trolls

    If one needed proof that Mueller’s investigation was an utter farce, they were in for a treat this morning when the Deputy Attorney General announced the indictment of indicted 13 “Russian trolls,” for allegedly interfering in the 2016 Presidential election by posting on social media accounts.

    Laying Mueller’s disregard of the First Amendment aside, the indictment is blatantly hypocritical in light of active social media intervention by pro-Clinton David Brock and his multi-million dollar efforts to ‘Correct The Record.’

    .
    Former CIA Chief Admits US Meddling In Foreign Elections “For Their Own Good”

    Former CIA chief James Woolsey appeared on Fox News to push the narrative of how dastardly ‘dem Russkies’ are in their meddling with the sacred soul of America’s democracy…

    …Ingraham asks Woolsey,

    “Have we ever tried to meddle in other countries’ elections?”

    He responds, surprisingly frankly…

    “Oh probably… but it was for the good of the system…”

    To which Ingraham follows up…

    “We don’t do that now though? We don’t mess around in other people’s elections?”

    Prompting this extraordinary sentence from a former CIA chief…

    “Well…hhhmmm, numm numm numm numm… only for a very good cause…in the interests of democracy”

    So just to clarify – yes, the CIA chief admitted that Democracy-spreading ‘Murica meddled in the Democratic elections of other nations “in the interests of democracy.”

    imho this fake Russia/Trump fantasy is backfiring more on Dems every day. The hypocrisy, hysteria and utter lunacy is similar to anti-Brexit remoaners and public are turning against the scaremongers.

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