Well, they probably will actually

It’s always worth reminding ourselves of the realities Rees-Mogg ignores. And let’s be clear: he can’t ignore them. If we are to trade with the EU after March 2019 we have to give them data. If we can’t, we won’t trade. It really may well be that simple. They are not going to break their law to do so.

It’s so quaint to think that the EU obeys the law all the time, isn’t it?

21 comments on “Well, they probably will actually

  1. So to paraphrase, if we don’t give data to the EU they will blockade Great Britain.

    According to Ritchie.

  2. It’s always worth reminding ourselves of the realities Rees-Mogg ignores. And let’s be clear: he can’t ignore them.

    Except, apparently, he can. Only he can’t but, oh yes, etc…

    It’s not given to us all to write with such pellucid clarity.

  3. “HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) is in the middle of implementing its new customs IT system”

    Presumably we can scrap it when we have free trade post-Brexit. Now if the French & others want to spend €bn on their own customs IT systems, that’s their right.

  4. +andrew M – “HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) is in the middle of implementing its new customs IT system”

    it won’t work anyway, anything hmrc introduces in it is always a clusterfuck – i can tell you this from experience working there. As soon as it’s introduced they will have to produce multiple work arounds just to get it stggering along.

    its always worth reminding ourselves that Captain potato is a cunt.

  5. With regards to respecting their own laws, perhaps Spud can enlighten us as to the history of the EU accounts and why the rules had to be changed in order to get OLAF to sign off on them?

  6. Spud particularly likes to have a go at Mogg after Mogg made him look silly in a select committee meeting.

  7. I believe it is entirely correct that hmrc have had several generations of computer systems–all of vast expense and stunning ineptitude. The NHS had to abandon its mess because of the spectre of even more dead bodies as a result of wading on . Having no such fright in view the tax morons have struggled and endeavoured to persevere with the expensive–to taxpayers who shelled out for it– shite.

  8. In the wake of all the discussions about tariffs and free trade and how Trump is making the USA poorer, has anybody put forward a study to show how the protectionism of the EU has made its member states poorer?

  9. All those academics have been keen to show how leaving the EU will make the UK poorer but, by the same token, being a member of a protectionist union must have made us poorer as well?

  10. It’s straight out of Animal Farm:

    USA protectionism bad,
    EU protectionism good.

  11. Thanks for the pointer, Tim, but I was really trying to expose the paradox in the way much academic commentary plus the Treasury claims that Brexit, ie. leaving a tariff wall, will make us poorer at the same time as they wail against the Trump tariff pronouncements

  12. 2 lessons from the 1930s.
    Avoid a deflationary depression by having the central bank providing liquidity – at a price. (Well 200 years after Bagehot gave that rule).

    Second: retaliation on trade tariffs is a really really dumb idea.

    2008 showed that we had grasped the first.
    The second….

  13. OT but it is Murphy.

    Not content with Adam Smith’s 4 principles of taxation, Murphy writes his own 10. One day, Ely and Downham Market may compete to have the definitive statue to his colossal intellect.

  14. BraveFart, you bastard! You made me look at Spud’s blog!! lol!

    Where I found this gem:

    “In that case I suggest we do require rising prices.

    What, anyway, is the harm?”

    And this guy is teaching economics…?!

  15. And now I’ve only gone and read his new 10 Commandments! More like 10 Stunning Stupidities!

    Tim, if ever you’ve fancied shooting fish in a barrel, here’s your chance!

  16. Moqifen

    ‘its always worth reminding ourselves that Captain potato is a cunt.’

    I am even thinking of engaging some Darkweb hacker to change every entry in the blog temporarily to reflect that fact…

  17. So all the mess where the EU was breaking it’s own data rules for sharing with the US didn’t happen? Seem to recall that the fix for that was similar to Tim’s suggestion for the Irish border, even just pretended that what the US told us was true, even though everyone knew it wasn’t

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