24 comments on “OK Will, OK….

  1. There was nothing more satisfying than watching Self getting intellectually tuned by Gove on TV. Repugnant cretin.

  2. For a May 2014 article in The Guardian, Self wrote: “the literary novel as an art work and a narrative art form central to our culture is indeed dying before our eyes”, explaining in a July 2014 article that his royalty income had decreased “dramatically” over the previous decade.

    Oddly enough I expect that Dostoyevsky wrote without much in the way of Royalties.

    “What excites me is to disturb the reader’s fundamental assumptions. I want to make them feel that certain categories within which they are used to perceiving the world are unstable.”

    Not as unstable as Will’s life is going to be once people stop buy his f**king awful books.

  3. The literary novel as an art work and a narrative art form central to our culture is dying before our eyes, and yet an increasing number of students are accumulating debts they will never pay back (to you and me) in order to study creative writing at university.

  4. I’ve never read any of Self’s novels and I don’t expect I ever will. I certainly will never pay for one.

    I like watching conventional hetero porn, but looking at guys jerking themselves off does nothing for me

  5. Here’s a good 2001 B.R. Myers article from The Atlantic on how American literature was disappearing quickly up its own arse:

    https://tinyurl.com/jlqftsd

    Easily applicable to writing on this side of the pond, as writers like Self endlessly demonstrate. I’ve used his recommended reading list –invariably written before I was born– to remind myself what good writing is.

  6. The excellent thing about Will Self (and was there ever a man more suitably named?) is that he doesn’t use obscure language when he can find expressions more recondite or abstruse.

  7. Some people read novels they are convinced they ought to read and then either pretend to like them or convince themselves that they did like them.

    I did that until I read Twain’s rant on Fenimore Cooper. see http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html

    It came to me that I had read and claimed to like a lot of crap and revisited my book collection to get rid of much of it.

    A lot of books are revered because they are old and for no other reason at all including most of the bible and most of what has survived from Greece and Rome.

    My daddy always said 90% of everything is shit, and he was underestimating.

  8. My mate’s novel Once A Pilgrim ( James Deegan, not Bill Scully in case anyone wants to check Amazon) is doing very well, with well over 100 5 star reviews in a bit more than six weeks. But then it’s an uncomplicated tale of extreme violence and vengeance being wrought on some PIRA filth, with a hint of shagging – there seems to be an appetite for that if not for M. Self’s masturbatory conceits.

  9. I crave absolution from our host, as I have to confess I did read a novel by him once. The plot was of London hundreds of years in the future with raised sea levels & Canary Wharf an offshore crumbling concrete ruin inhabited by ferals. That might have made an interesting sci-fi novel but Self didn’t write it.

  10. Is the novel dying? Are book sales down?

    Or is it just Self’s painful nonsense that is failing to attract readers?

  11. As his stint on Shooting Stars proved, Self isn’t fit to lace Mark Lamarr’s boots.

    I’ve read a couple of his novels, his concepts are interesting but his prose is so turgid and hard-going it sucks the enjoyment out of exploring them.

    I find Stephen Fry’s literary efforts very similar to Self’s with the added disappointment that I expect more from a Fry novel than I do from a Self one.

  12. Heretical thought of the day – I quite enjoy Self’s short stories actually. As BiLH says, he can be conceptually quite interesting, and I can cope with his use of language in small doses.

    But I’d not dare pick up one of his novels. Life is too short to be wasted in that fashion.

    If you value your leisure time at, say, £10/hour, then given how thick so many novels are, then how many are “worth” the read?

  13. My mate’s novel Once A Pilgrim ( James Deegan, not Bill Scully in case anyone wants to check Amazon) is doing very well, with well over 100 5 star reviews in a bit more than six weeks.

    Good for him! See, that’s what a traditional publisher will do for you!

  14. And let’s not forget Tim Newman’s novel, which is better than anything Will Self has written:

    Ooh, thanks! Sold another one yesterday, no doubt because of this link. 🙂

  15. I remember Melvyn Bragg on An Audience with Edna Everage, when “she” asked him how many books he had written. I can’t remember the answer, but the audience was then asked how many had read any. Needless to say not a single hand went up. “Better slow down a bit, Melvyn”, said Edna, “to let us catch up.”

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