Brave statement

The first question does not require a “strategic welfare review” as Field suggests. It demands that bigger macroeconomic questions be answered, including what the cost of not supplying this care might be. But I already know the answer: it will be politically impossible for any elected government not to supply the healthcare people in this country want and need.

People are denied treatment they desire all the time.

Ever heard of NICE? Waiting lists?

Sigh. So, public services are free are they? Over time that is:

Second, spending creates the capacity to pay more tax. The reasons should be obvious and yet apparently they are not. New government spending is, of course, someone’s income. It is not poured into a black hole to be lost forever more. That means that some comes straight back in tax. And yet more comes back because the recipient of the extra income also spends, and so tax is paid, and so on. It is quite likely that over time new spending pays for itself. Field should learn some basic economics.

Amazingly, no, it doesn’t work that way.

18 comments on “Brave statement

  1. Yes, the multiplier is always more than seven. Always always always. You don’t need research, you don’t need models, you just need my assertions.

    If you don’t believe me, the only possible explanation is that you are a neoliberal. Possibly also a lizard.

  2. I am reading so much of this blog I am becoming prejudiced against white goods labelled Morphy Richards.

  3. Is this the same person that argues that corporate owners’ profits disappears into a black hole?

  4. [State] spending creates the capacity to pay more tax. The reasons should be obvious and yet apparently they are not. New government spending is, of course, someone’s income. It is not poured into a black hole to be lost forever more. That means that some comes straight back in tax. And yet more comes back because the recipient of the extra income also spends, and so tax is paid, and so on. It is quite likely that over time new spending pays for itself. Field should learn some basic economics.

    Thus, the USSR was the richest, most advanced place on Earth?

    Peston on BBC – yes those socialists – did a programme [The Party’s Over: How the West Went Bust?] on why Ritchie is wrong a few years ago.

    Ritchie makes ever more deluded statements every day. He lives in an echo chamber debating & agreeing with himself. Why EU & UK DoE fund him with taxpayers money is a mystery

  5. In Tuber’s socialist utopia you can have whatever you want, except it’s rationed through a device called a waiting list. Nail hit on head there Tim.

  6. according to the tuberous one we should be the richest nation on earth after the trillions various governments have spunked away. The potato – what you get when an idiot can self declare as an economist.

  7. it will be politically impossible for any elected government not to supply the healthcare people in this country want and need

    I am not sure that is true or at least I think he has half a point. The people of this country will accept anything. You could slap an NHS label on a pile of cow sh!t and they would be happy.

    It is the self-interested lobbies you need to buy off. They look at the detail of policy. They know what is on offer. And they can kick up a huge fuss in the media if they do not get what they want. Which is mainly more spending on higher wages, especially for bureaucrats, not better health care. They just say it is about better health care. Not the same thing at all.

  8. Speaking of brave decisions, the insane logic of our useless ruling class continues to grind into the mud:

    Judge Madge said was was the points of ordinary kitchen knives that was causing the soaring loss of life among youngsters

    Says members of the public could take their kitchen knives to be ‘modified’ and the points ground down into rounded ends
    ….
    ‘But why we do need 8′ or 10′ kitchen knives with points? Butchers and fishmongers do, but how often, if at all, does a domestic chef use the point of an 8′ or 10′ knife? Rarely, if at all,’ he said.

    It is still too late for voting to make a difference and too soon for violence to be the solution. But we are getting there.

  9. it will be politically impossible for any elected government not to supply the healthcare people in this country want and need.

    Unless you smoke, or are overweight, or what other things the State will demonise in the future to ration this endless and free care: drinking alcohol, eating chocolate, being white. If you think the last one is absurd, always find out what is currently popular on the looniest fringe of the Left and then assume this will be Establishment thinking in twenty years time.

  10. SMFS, it may interest but not surprise you to know that the walls of Harrow Crown Court, where Nic Madge used to sit, are lined with admiring photos he took many years ago of various mud huts in various third world hell-holes.

  11. SMfS. Lobbyists are NOT the problem. They are a natural REACTION to excessive government power. Get the government to stop fiddling, and the lobbyists will disappear.

    Lobbying is free speech.

  12. Gamecock – “Lobbyists are NOT the problem. They are a natural REACTION to excessive government power. Get the government to stop fiddling, and the lobbyists will disappear.”

    Not lobbyists per se. But lobbies in the older sense – powerful groups in society who can agitate for their own interests. The BMA for instance. Naturally they want more spent on their own members, or Health Care as they put it. The Nurses’ Unions. The Guardian.

    If these people scream then the voters will notice. If they are all on board with whatever the government is doing, then they government can do it. So essentially the prison system has been captured by the Howard League, the education system by the Teachers’ Unions and the NHS by the nurses.

  13. It’s obvious he has no understanding of basic economic concepts such as scarcity or opportunity cost.

  14. @SMFS

    Judge Madge has obviously never bought a whole fish, rabbit… – good luck gutting/skinning with a rounded end knife.

    Even slicing an onion, tomato, melon… uses pointy end.

    A fool sanctioned to lock people up.

  15. Or he has an obliging wife (I doubt it)/servants.

    It is indeed a spectacularly stupid and ignorant thing for him to have said.

    And yet, dislikeable though he is, he’s actually not stupid.

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