I thought this was weather, not climate

And that the two aren’t the same?

This heatwave is just the start. Britain has to adapt to climate change, fast
Simon Lewis
Water, housing, farming … almost every aspect of public life needs to change. Why isn’t this top of the political agenda?

Well, what we’d actually have to do, over the next half to full century – if the more apocalyptic warnings are true of course – is adopt the housing, farming, water etc policies of those a few hundred miles south of us. And then we’ll be done.

This is not beyond the wit of man as even the French have already managed to do this.

26 comments on “I thought this was weather, not climate

  1. I’m amazed the panhandlers and snake oil sellers have waited this long into the “heatwave” to emerge. It’s hot in the USA too, and sure enough the aphids have landed on the media to try and suck us all dry.

    I think the people still remember the winter.

  2. You can’t do better than follow Tony Heller on Twitter (from there to his blog). He tweets under Steve Goddard for old labor question reasons.

    Among many other things he has designed software to aggregate official readings from US weather stations. He does the lot: daily, monthly, yearly… one station, by cities, by states and so on.

    The reality is fascinating and so far from the official narrative. Truly amazing. Having worked with the data over the years he has even caught them out adjusting down the heat of the early 20thC and adjusting up the late 20thC to support the narrative.

    No alarmist will debate him and NOBODY has managed to discredit him.

    A brave man.

  3. Perhaps not top of the political agenda because the parties are focused on other things that should be top of the political agenda instead. Like Brexit, jobs, economy, infrastructure, housing, trade etc.

  4. As a farmer I can truthfully say that the last 15 years has been far wetter and colder in summer than the 15 years prior to that. We have had probably 3 absolute blazing summers in the last 15 years prior to this one, and probably 5 absolute stickers, including the wettest since 1912 (2012), and a lot of average to poor summers. One of the reasons farmers have got caught out by the current dry hot spell is that it just hasn’t been a regular occurrence, in the way it was in the 70s, 80s and 90s. So they’ve made stocking plans based on getting a certain amount of rain, and therefore a certain amount of grass to graze and cut for hay and silage, and this year there just won’t be the grass to make the fodder to feed the animals.

    So if one were being honest about the trends in UK weather, you would conclude that UK has been getting wetter, not drier, and while average temperatures may have risen (I’m suspicious of the official figures anyway) that is not due to the maximum temperatures rising, its due to the minimum ones rising, thus lifting the average, while it doesn’t feel any hotter.

    Taking one summer as a data point is cherry picking in the extreme. One might as well suggest that the Beast from the East was the harbinger of a new Ice Age.

  5. “Why isn’t this top of the political agenda?”

    Because it is lying leftist ecofreak bullshit . That’s why.

  6. I suspect that the onset of a new Little Ice Age is much likelier in the next few decades than is the forecast Heat Death of Civilisation.

    The reason is that the Heat Death is a lot of spurious, dishonest rubbish whereas the Little Ice Age is merely a guess.

  7. New ice age; that’s what we were told to worry about in 1976. For younger readers that was as hot as this and lasted till September.

  8. Yes weather.

    The starting point for this was the stratospheric warming events in winter and early spring, reversing NH weather patterns and precipitating northern blocking. The blocking has now become persistent and to some degree self perpetuating – we probably need a major pattern change to bring this to an end (normal zonal).

  9. New ice age; that’s what we were told to worry about in 1976. For younger readers that was as hot as this and lasted till September.

    From May to September as I recall and the day after they appointed a Minister of Drought it rained cats and dogs. Reminded me of “Passport to Pimlico”.

    The reality is fascinating and so far from the official narrative. Truly amazing. Having worked with the data over the years he has even caught them out adjusting down the heat of the early 20thC and adjusting up the late 20thC to support the narrative.

    This is why the Climategate e-mails from at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) as they show that the reason why the climate alarmists won’t publish their raw data is that the raw data shows nothing but a dogwalk of temperatures varying up and down year-on-year and decade-on-decade.

    Only by “adjusting” these figures to ignore historic highs and modern geographic lows can the claims of the climate change alarmists be supported.

    The reality is that the climate when looked at over several millennia and using a min and max based upon previous interglacial periods, the temperature is slightly below average and may be rising, but is still well within the boundaries of previous climate variation.

    The problem with this view of climate is that it ignores annual and decadal fluctuations and instead looks at the multivariable ebb-and-flow of solar output, cloud formation, cosmic ray levels, deep ocean water flows, salinity changes and a whole bunch of other factors which the climate alarmists ignore with their simplistic model of “higher CO2 = higher temperatures”.

  10. Hotter/dryer than normal… consistent with Man made Climate Change.

    Colder/wetter than normal… consistent with Man made Climate Change.

    Normal… consistent with Man made Climate Change

    I thought everyone understood… it’s ‘the science’.

  11. “New Ice Age? So, like the eggheads were predicting in the Seventies?”

    No, I said Little Ice Age. I assume that a real Ice Age is pretty near certain but haven’t the first idea when it’s due. A few thousand years?

  12. If Ice Ages are generally caused by the 41,000 year Milanković cycles and it’s about 11,000 years since the last one then we should expect the next one in about 30,000 years.

  13. We can have mini ice ages though. Thames freezing over sufficient to have ice fairs on the river etc.

    Problem with cycles is that if a variable changes you can get caught out.

  14. We can have mini ice ages though. Thames freezing over sufficient to have ice fairs on the river etc.

    Sure, although that was as much about the design of London Bridge at the time rather than the mini-Ice age.

    The Maunder Minimum was the cause of the of mini-ice age from 1645 to 1715 and the Spörer Minimum between 1460 and 1550.

    The next “Grand Minimum” is due sometime around the 2030’s, but the actual impact that will have is unknown.

    https://bigthink.com/news/the-solar-minimum-is-coming-in-about-30-years-what-will-it-do

  15. @ John Galt
    The Thames won’t freeze over in summer or in mild winters, no matter what bridge or dam that you build on it. The environment has to be far enough below 32F to leach all the heat from the *moving* water (which converts potential energy into kinetic into heat as it flows downhill) so that it all drops below 4C and then leach more heat from the top layer so that it drops to 32F/0C and the more to absorb the latent heat of melting/freezing. That means really cold for weeks.
    A better argument would be that the heat generated by modern London will stop the Thames freezing even if the winter everywhere else is as bad as in 1600.

  16. Its less likely the Thames will freeze under the same conditions as the Maunder Minimum because of the Urban Heat Island effect, which incidentally got WUWT going and was one of the first debunkings of the climate alarmists.

    The Climate Skeptic did an excellent high school experiment with son to demonstrate UHI in Phoenix.

  17. If I may be slightly pedantic, the 1976 drought didn’t quite go through to September: it broke on the Saturday of the August Bank Holiday weekend (28th August). I remember it only too well, as my husband and I were camping at a Christian festival; we went to the seminar tent at 9 am, it began raining around 9.30, and by the time we reached our tent, every item in it (including our sleeping bag) was soaked through. Since everyone had been praying for rain for several months, we felt it was just a tad ironic…

  18. Another reason why the Thames is not likely to freeze in the next mini-ice-age is that it is now embanked. In the 17th century the South Bank and below London Bridge was a marsh,

  19. “A better argument would be that the heat generated by modern London will stop the Thames freezing even if the winter everywhere else is as bad as in 1600.”

    This assumes there will be energy to heat London. The climate twats are working to ensure there won’t be.

  20. @ PJF
    The Civil Service will have heated offices in winter. The rules will be written very, very carefully to ensure that “essential services” are protected and that the higher civil service is deemed “essential”

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