No, I don’t think this is it

Couple of Ministers resigning? Might start the avalanche but I doubt it.

Heseltine started it but it required the realisation that the next election would be lost to get Maggie out.

And?

49 comments on “No, I don’t think this is it

  1. May will lose the next election, the awfulness of Jezza notwithstanding. If the Tories defenestrate her and all her works quickly, they might just recover before 2022. Fill the attic with soft toilet tissue and open a grate for solid fuel.

  2. BoJo and Gove must be sniffing the air, testing the water. I can see this developing.

  3. Bo-Jo could be wanting a meeting with Trump before deciding.
    I regret I agree with MB re Gove.

  4. There is absolutely no way any conservative Conservative ever would vote for this shower again unless she’s toppled and there’s a purge. And then maybe.

  5. Gove fucked himself with Sunday morning sellout on TV.

    BloJo is nigh dead. But he did say the “Turd” word. So if he resigns this morning he might recover .

    Thanks to DD.

    The Tory MPs –remain scum and morons tho’ they be –also know that they are toast next vote time. They must also realise that only a good Brexit can save them and the country. If a sellout is all that’s on offer from both sides the Northern former ZaNu voters will revert back to Jizza. Whereas the WILL vote Tory for a decent Brexit.

    Being out on their arse in a Corbin–more likely McNasty–paradise should focus even Tory minds.

  6. May’s NeverExit plan guarantees the next Prime Minister is Jeremy Corbyn – unless her own party gets her out first.

    Remember the lack of enthusiasm amongst potential Tory voters at the last election, and how much it swung Parliament in Labour’s favour? Multiply that by ten.

  7. She must be gone before Trump arrives. She has no negotiating skills, no vision of life outside the tentacles of a permanent political class. She is the old order.

  8. Corbyn shoe in unless May goes

    Even the most loyal conservatives know that

    17 million votes are just going to stick a finger up at May et al

    If a ‘son of UKIP’ party emerges they will clean up

  9. Anyone remember the ancient cry? “If women were allowed to run the world, everything would be so much better!”

    I noted with interest May’s threat to deprive any resigning minister of his car, forcing him to walk or take a taxi when leaving Chequers. That is a peculiarly feminine specimen of vindictiveness, and symptomatic of the way she has conducted herself in any position of authority. Alpha males like Davis find it almost impossible to tolerate such behaviour and I’m surprised he’s lasted this long. But then he’s a politician, with a politician’s devotion to expediency, so I can’t say I understand him at all.

    As for Johnson, he’s just a buffoon. If he does jump ship, you can be sure he’ll choose the worst possible moment.

  10. By the time Brussels have finished with May’s proposed Brexit plan we will be staying in in all but name. Of course we’ll take it out on the Tories at the next election, and Labour will go on to bugger up everything. Am already filling the cellar with tinned goods and shotgun shells.

  11. Bernie – remember, the Tories no longer have a parliamentary majority thanks to Calamity May. An election could be sooner than we think.

  12. Bernie G +1
    Dominic Cummings had it right: the government – the civil service not those egregious fools in Parliament – has at no point made any serious plans to leave the EU. We are going to stay in, we were always going to stay in.
    It will just be called something different for a few years.

  13. Can we get Viktor Orban as PM? He can introduce laws, punishable by prison, that make it illegal to obstruct or undermine Brexit or to facilitate obstructing or undermining Brexit, or to facilitate facilitating……..etc.

  14. I don’t get why DD changed his mind. Didn’t he agree at the Chequers meeting?

    Did he wait until his main rivals, Gove and Boris, had committed themselves in public and then pulled the plug?

    I think that history tells us no one learns anything until they are on the Opposition benches. The rest of the party will defend May. After all, no one wants to upset the gravy train and risk all those free tickets to Twickenham. The corporate sector wants to Remain and so the Tories will vote to stay.

  15. SMFS – don’t get why DD changed his mind. Didn’t he agree at the Chequers meeting?

    It’s quite likely he simply declined to be photographed trudging down the road, looking like a dick. Which was, naturally, the passive aggressive purpose behind the taxi stunt Thomas Fuller mentions above.

  16. May is an idiot. She has allowed the civil service to force them into a position of utmost weakness, which was always their position. How she ever thought that this was remotely sensible is beyond me.

  17. I can’t believe a picture of DD walking down the drive way to call a cab would in any way reflect badly on him or well on May.

    I would have thought it would have carried him to the leadership even. Man of principle and all that. Petty vindictiveness never looks good.

  18. SMFS – Generally, when people set obvious traps for you, it’s best to avoid them. Because traps are gay.

    I don’t think it makes much difference either way though.

  19. I do feel some sympathy for Moggie at the moment. On the one hand, he is opposed to the deal rather more than somewhat. On the other hand, being a man of principle, he feels he is duty bound to be loyal to his Prime Minister.

    It can’t be a comfortable situation to be in.

  20. I noted with interest May’s threat to deprive any resigning minister of his car, forcing him to walk or take a taxi when leaving Chequers.

    Fuck, if someone threatened me with that I’d resign and walk just out pure stubbornness.

  21. Tim – Fuck, if someone threatened me with that I’d resign and walk just out pure stubbornness.

    Yes, but politicians are still unduly obsessed with “optics”.

    I read DD’s resignation letter. It’s pretty damning stuff phrased as weak tea. It’d be better if our political geniuses realised we no longer give a toss about niceties and went Full Trump. What’s the worst that can happen – the BBC won’t approve?

    Conservatives have lost nearly every fight that matters since WW2 in large part thanks to this Queensberry Rules nonsense.

  22. smfs–The bulk of tory MPs will be out at the next election if the FFC is not gone soon anyway.

    Fear of Jizza will not save them. With a decent Brexit Northern Labour will vote Tory. With a sell out all round who cares. Let the evil times be laid at socialism’s door direct rather than hearing any more bullshit about how BluLabour supports “capitalism”.

  23. Mr Ecks – if/when the beardie weirdie becomes PM, should we call his tax hikes “Jeziya”?

  24. Steve – “Generally, when people set obvious traps for you, it’s best to avoid them. Because traps are gay.”

    And when someone wants you to be their b!tch it is generally a good idea not to agree.

    I don’t think that May is a super-genius who had some cunning plot. It sounds more like the arrogant idea of a civil servant. May is probably too thick to come up with the idea on her own. But that is the quality of our leaders – kept in line by the thought of having to hail a cab.

  25. SMFS – It sounds more like the arrogant idea of a civil servant.

    One of the Spads most likely. However, May is supposed to be their leader.

    Obviously Chequers was set up like a high-pressure timeshare pitch, unfortunately for them what they’re selling is so obviously shit it won’t make it through the cooling off period. And all because the government, rather than accepting the referendum result, has spent the last 2 years trying to placate the losers.

    What an omnifuckup.

  26. Steve said:
    “It’s quite likely he [DD] simply declined to be photographed trudging down the road, looking like a dick.”

    He’s 70, it’s been a bit warm the last week; more likely he just didn’t fancy trudging down the road.

    As SMFS said, the publicity would have been huge, but I suspect he looked at the length of the drive on the way in and thought “fuck that”.

  27. May is surrounded by remainiacs – like Gavin “Brexit is the politics of hate” Barwell MP, and she has allowed the civil service – in the person of europhiliac traitor, Olly Robbins – to usurp DD’s role. (A senior Irish politician recently said Olly Robbins was in charge of Brexit and DD just the teaboy.) May has never had an original thought in her life: she’s a dim and timid ditherer.

    That said, I can’t get too wound up about May’s negotiating position – at this stage. The Fourth Reich scents weakness and they will reject May’s fudge, saying the single market is indivisible. So she will have to concede more, and her negotiating stance will suffer the death of the thousand qualifications.

    With each concession, the likelihood of further Cabinet resignations will increase. Prime ministerial authority will drain away from May. The EU will become utterly intransigent…and the UK will probably crash out without any deal. The unintended consequence of May’s timidity and indecisiveness will be a very hard Brexit.

  28. Thomas Fuller:

    Thanks for that link! Very impressive performance by Steve Baker.

  29. Theo – That said, I can’t get too wound up about May’s negotiating position – at this stage

    That’s a mistake, I reckon. May showed this plan to Merkel before telling her cabinet. Obviously those two crones think the fix is in.

    The danger is not that the EU might reject the Chequers NeverExit plan. The danger is they might accept it. Now is the time to spike their guns, not later, after they’ve fired.

  30. Steve

    I respect your judgement on such matters — particularly given your accurate prediction of Trump’s victory – but I beg to differ here.

    Mutti is yesterday’s woman, and her influence is waning. Also, she’s devious and perfectly capable of undermining May, just as she undermined Cameron on free movement.

    Meanwhile, the fanatical Selmayr and Barnier want to punish the UK for threatening EU unity, and they would like a hard Brexit (as would I – no pain, no gain). May is asking for the UK to be in the single market for goods but not for services. Barnier has already said the SM is indivisible – because, once a precedent is set, other EU states might demand similar arrangements, and the federalist project and franco-german empire would begin to unravel. The chance that the EU will accept May’s offer is almost zero.

    If May concedes on this, more Cabinet resignations will follow. (The odious Leadsom will be the last to depart.)

  31. Steve: Obviously those two crones think the fix is in.

    Possibly but I think that May made the same mistake as Cameron in thinking that Merkel was both influential and interested in helping. She wasn’t then and she is even less so now.

    This should have been clear to the meanest intelligence which explains why May missed the obvious and hot-footed it to Berlin with her embryo White Paper and antagonised her cabinet into the bargain.

    Dummkopf!

  32. Theo – thank you, and I hope you’re right. I’d much rather we don’t take the chance though. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when we’re relying on the intransigence of EU functionaries to deliver a meaningful Brexit.

    TMB – Merkel and May have both failed upwards, but if there’s one thing they’re good at, it’s brass-necking the results of their own hideous fuckwittitude.

  33. Nice to hear from you Theo. Hope you are right.

    But is the time to put every possible pressure on BluLabour. Write, email, threaten ( not violence but out-on-their-arse promises). We must squeeze the bitch until she shrieks and explodes.

  34. The FFCs proposals look to me to be totally unacceptable to the Brexit voters plus those remain voters who have accepted the referendum verdict. The remoaners have mistakenly characterised the public as immigration-only rejectionists, whereas I reckon there is a very strong and consistent current of demand for freedom from EU regulatory control across the board. We want our political class to be in full control, and fully answerable to us again. Alone in the room with us once more, and stripped of their fallback excuses of EU regulations when they have fouled something up.
    What is more I see full Brexit with WTO trading regime as a well defined substrate, and one from which we would have the leeway in the future to strike further trade deals with the rest of the world.
    This government and parliament had one job to do, and they have succeeded in buggering it up on a spectacular scale, I’m sick of hearing about parliamentary sovereignty, and even representative democracy. Rope and lamppost time….

  35. In all the pandemonium, and the fact I’ve been working hard on the farm with all the lovely weather, I never had time think – why were we suggesting being in a sort of single market for goods, but not for services? Isn’t the whole point that services are what we’re good at, and goods not so much? So what was the point of setting things up so cars could be seamlessly exported from the UK to the EU, but we couldn’t sell them insurance? Why were we trying desperately to keep the status quo in an area of trade where we have a massive deficit?

  36. Isn’t goods but not services what we have already as an EU member? So, “Wonderful concession! We get to have no change!” Just like Cameron’s “”concessions””.

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