Better not let the state have much power then, eh?

That. though, is the least of it. What we have is a Rudderless State. I once thought the opposite to my vision of the Courageous State was the Cowardly State, where politicians ran from all issues to let the market decide what should be done. But now I realise that things can be worse than that. Now I see that politicians, so out of touch with reality that only dogma and the security of their own wealth matters, will destroy the state and so the underpinnings of the very market they profess to favour in pursuit of their wish to inflict harm on rhe process of government itself.

This is the point we have reached.

20 comments on “Better not let the state have much power then, eh?

  1. I would say the notion of a Rudderless State helps explain why “Make America Great Again” resonated with so many people in the States.

    The left naturally leaped to the conclusion the slogan means a return to the 1950s – or to the 1850s, if you’re Hillary.

    Conservatives hear it a very different way. Conservatives hear a statement that the U.S. needs forward-looking leadership again – leadership that, for starters, actually believes in America.

  2. This is probably a mistake but let’s see if I can work through the logic here. Our politicians are working to secure their wealth by destroying the state. This is bad because they will somehow secure wealth while everyone else loses it.

    This seems odd because I believe that most people think that politicians secure their wealth by forcibly imposing lots of government upon the population, eg Stalin and sundry African dictators. As usual, Captain Potato reaches the opposite conclusion from most people and categorises it as normal

  3. Politicians largely secure some wealth by being gatekeepers and exacting a toll (which is not necessarily a bribe), but the real payoff comes after they’ve ceased being politicians and become lobbyists, who are really analogous to lock-pickers. They’ve a vested interest in a large and complex state, albeit one riddled with wormholes that they know how to navigate.

  4. ‘I never expected to live in a Rudderless State. But that is where I now am. And it does not appeal.’

    Then in the name of all that is holy please bugger off to Ireland or Denmark post haste and spout your nonsense from there?

  5. It’s only rudderless because we have a remainer in charge of leave, who appears to want to sabotage leave. Luckily there are some mps who actually will vote as their electorate as asked them to do (ie leave) . We are going round in circles because the government does not want to go forward- not helped by the great and the good (was ever that a greater misnomer) cheered on by paid shills like the potato insisting that the eu is the best thing since sliced bread – leading to May who has the spine of a jellyfish being unable to make a decision to leave. Of course anyone with an iq at more than room temperature would listen to the bleatings of the potato and do the exact opposite.

  6. wish there was an edit function – should read -Of course anyone with an iq at more than room temperature would listen to the bleatings of the potato and do the exact opposite to his suggestions

  7. There you guys go again… Trying to tease something rational out of the ravings of a dim-witted loon.

    And just to clarify, at this moment I’m speaking about Murphy, not NiV. His moment will come soon enough, I’m afraid.

  8. Dennis

    That last paragraph did make me laugh out loud to general bemusement amongst the other people my office

  9. “His moment will come soon enough, I’m afraid.”

    Careful! Xe might hit you with xer handbag. Or, more painfully, one of xer trademark non sequiturs.

  10. “Could Ecks’ vision of bold action be described as a Courageous State?”

    No.

    It is what has to be done to turn it all around. When the forces of evil have been crushed the actual power of the state needs to be turned down. With the proviso of some kind of anti-leftist “Overwatch” remaining.

    Of course such a thing will be perverted by evil sooner or later. Were socialism to be utterly smashed down to the last sack of shite it would only be a question of time before some new evil arises. But each bit if freedom we can win makes life better.

  11. The Meissen Bison – then only the wealthy could afford to become an MP. And they may well want to increase their wealth while in office.

    Cannot say from my reading of history that only letting the wealthy make the big political decisions has turned out well for the people of the country.

    How were things in Britain back before the commons were so powerful. Better? Or worse? You decide.

  12. @ Martin
    Not so – the Trade Unions financed MPs who represented their interests, many lawyers earned money in the morning while attending parliament in the evening and some MPs were financed by their husbands or wives (before Willsoon doubled the cost of MPs those on modest but decent incomes could adford to be an MP) – in the 1960s Bill Rodgers’ role as an MP was subsidised through his wife’s earnings as a dentist.

  13. Oh, so we should have even more lawyers as MPs? Just to save a few quid on salaries?

    What could possibly go wrong?

  14. @Van_Patten 2:48 pm

    Then in the name of all that is holy please bugger off to Ireland or Denmark post haste and spout your nonsense from there?

    Fuck off, we don’t want him here.

  15. @gunker – it would be best if he fucked off to brussels – closer to the trough so he can brown nose for more grants. Plus he would benefit from all that vibrant diversity the left is always raving about – i bet renting in molenbeek is both cheap and vibrant – so much so that he may explode with delight.

  16. @John Fembup
    My misting eyes first read your comment as: “I would say the notion of a Ruddless State helps explain why “Make Amber Great Again” resonated with so many people never.”

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