This is entirely fascinating

The NHS must offer transgender patients awaiting transitioning treatment access to fertility services or it risks breaking the law, the health service has been warned by the country’s equality watchdog.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is threatening legal action if “outdated” NHS policies, which it says discriminate against the transgender community, are not changed urgently.

Eh?

“Our laws and our values protect those who seek treatment for gender dysphoria,” Hilsenrath said. “This means that, where appropriate, treatment should be made available in order to ensure that access to health services is free of discrimination. A choice between treatment for gender dysphoria and the chance to start a family is not a real choice.”

You’re specifically insisting that we chop your nads out and at the same time we’ve got to protect your right to have children?

Whut?

The removal and storage of eggs and sperm – a process known as gamete extraction – gives transgender people the option of having their own biological children after transitioning treatment.

Yup, that’s what is being said.

Cakeism.

28 comments on “This is entirely fascinating

  1. ’…gives transgender people the option of having their own biological children after transitioning treatment.’

    The rights of a child not to be born into such a freakish union are, I suppose, neither here nor there..?

  2. “The rights of a child not to be born into such a freakish union are, I suppose, neither here nor there..?”

    Which declaration on Human Rights are you reading?

    I’ve heard people express the opinion that kids should have the right not to be born to right-wing parents. But as I recall they used the word “should”. They didn’t suggest they had already been given that right.

  3. “They didn’t suggest they had already been given that right.”

    Neither did JuliaM. She supposed that such a right is neither here nor there.

  4. “Neither did JuliaM. She supposed that such a right is neither here nor there.”

    Fair point. I guess if they’re not here, and they’re not there, they must be nowhere.

  5. Life of Brian, 39 years ahead of its time:

    Francis: Why are you always on about women, Stan?
    Stan: (pause) I want to be one.

    (pregnant pause)

    Reg: What?
    Stan: I want to be a woman. From now on I want you all to call me Loretta.
    Reg: What!?
    Stan: It’s my right as a man.
    Judith: Why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
    Stan: I want to have babies.
    Reg: You want to have babies?!?!?!
    Stan: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
    Reg: But you can’t have babies.
    Stan: Don’t you oppress me.
    Reg: I’m not oppressing you, Stan — you haven’t got a womb. Where’s the
    fetus going to gestate? You going to keep it in a box?
    (Stan starts crying.)
    Judith: Here! I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually
    have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even the
    Romans’, but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
    Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to
    have babies, brother. Sister, sorry.
    Reg: (pissed) What’s the *point*?
    Francis: What?
    Reg: What’s the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he
    can’t have babies?
    Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
    Reg: It’s symbolic of his struggle against reality.

  6. “But it isn’t realistic to expect a child to want to be able to have their own children, so it’s up to the parents to say ‘we need to preserve that option for them’ so that, when they get to an age when they do want to start thinking about it, at least then they have the choice.”

    My child may be batshit but I’d still like a chance of having grandchildren.

  7. “…Mermaids, the charity that supports transgender children and their families.”

    Isn’t the choice of fantasy creature for that title a bit…um…one sided?

    Unicorns maybe?

    Unicorn Rainbow Farts!

  8. Came here for NiV’s hot takes, wasn’t disappointed.

    The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is

    Something we could easily abolish, safe in the knowledge nothing of value will be lost?

  9. This is the situation for a friend of mine.

    Before having the chop she had her sperm frozen. She is now in a lesbian relationship. They have a child as her partner gave birth to a girl using her sperm via IVF.

    So her daughter has two Mums but one of her Mums is also her Dad.

    I do wonder what the kid’s school mates will think but it might be normal for Brighton.

  10. So her daughter has two Mums but one of her Mums is also her Dad.

    No wonder Rod Serling smoked.

  11. ‘and the chance to start a family is not a real choice.”

    But a ‘real choice’ has been made having your bits chopped off/cut out, so chance to start a family? That ship has sailed.

  12. Dennis –And you wonder why I heap scorn upon you.

    not really, no. Deluded American Baby Boomer conservatards doubling down on glib, yet tone deaf, tough guy rhetoric as the bills come due for their generation’s solipsism and weakness are ten a penny on the internets.

    “Ok I sold my kids’ birthright for a mess of kebab, and I literally work in a mosque, but at least I have MUH CONSTITUTION! (and Medicare)”

    I can’t do an ASCII clownface so please accept a shrug in its place: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  13. “Steve – NiV – so you’re saying (Cathy Newman mode activated) transgenderism is cancer?”

    “NiV – No.”

    Then, is it … a lobster?

  14. @Mr Ecks, August 5, 2018 at 1:08 pm
    @Steve, August 5, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    +1

    The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is near top of my list of Close & Sack along with PHE. Top is DFID.

    Farewell former staff.

    No replacing them with contracting out, charities, NGOs etc either.

  15. Clearly, all the world’s major problems have been solved. Wind up Oxfam, disband Help The Children, shut down Christian Aid.

  16. Dennis – No. I do enjoy a nice wee internet fight though, so hopefully you’re of a similar bent. Are you Scots-Irish? Those guys love a scrap.

    After your insistence (some time back) that you’re some sort of Somali-whisperer, and (embarrasingly false) claim they don’t go in for homebrew cliterodectamies, I was toying with a joke about Lawrence of No-Labia. But I’m too lazy to write the setup.

    PCar – I would love to have the job of firing these people. I’d even take a pay cut just to deliver the news in person. You just can’t get that kind of job satisfaction in the private sector.

    Captain Fatty – Maybe he means lobsters are transphobic? After all, you rarely see nephropidae at Pride marches, and crabs don’t count.

Leave a Reply

Name and email are required. Your email address will not be published.