The Goldsmith’s students have been reading Der Stürmer

The equivalent of at least:

Students at a leading London university have been condemned as blind to reality after defending the system of Soviet Gulag labour camps where thousands perished as “compassionate” places of rehabilitation.

Trans rights campaigners at Goldsmiths University described the Gulags as benign places where inmates received education, training and enjoyed the opportunity to take part in clubs, sports and theatre groups.

Yes, OK, they’re idiots and they’re still being educated because we and they agree that they’re still ignorant to boot.

However, there are undoubtedly some out there who describe the Gulag in such terms. There are apologists for every human evil after all.

But here’s the error being made. It’s as if they’re gaining their knowledge of Auschwitz from Der Stürmer. Not exactly the manner by which one becomes enlightened.

But here’s the difference. We abhor those who use Theresienstadt as archetypal. Hound them out of public life. Those who gloss the Gulag likely gain professorships at the more radical Polys.

And wouldn’t it be interesting to have some sleuthing done? Where, in the material these students have likely come across – history books, lecture notes, tankie publications maybe – are those descriptions o that Gulag. Who wrote them? And o we get to go snarl at them as we would those who gloss Chelmno?

If not why not?

25 comments on “The Goldsmith’s students have been reading Der Stürmer

  1. Echoes here of the old lie – that communism is well intentioned, even if it was ‘poorly implemented’* in the past, while fascism (ie everything from Blairism rightwards) is the epitome of evil.

    * see Seamus Milne, Owen Jones, et al…

  2. “they’re idiots and they’re still being educated because we and they agree that they’re still ignorant to boot.”

    No. Their nonsense is a result of ‘educating’ people beyond the level of their analytical intelligence, which makes them prone to indoctrination. Such people (who may have other forms of intelligence) can be instructed or trained: they can’t be educated to think critically and sceptically. And leftist academics exploit this.

    Purge and close many universities. Ecksian terms, etc.

  3. We all grew up with idiots like this. My cohort – the ones I knew – ended up teaching in bog-standard secondary schools and polytechnics as was. What puzzles me now is how many of these characters come from the homes of middle-class professionals. What’s the attraction, rebelling against your parents?

  4. If they were taught to think even these bovine trots would spot the obvious contradictions in their credo within seconds.

  5. If I understand, they were defending an earlier assertations that (iirc) some trans rights deniers should be sent to the gulag. So not only defending gulags but advocating sending those who don’t agree with them should be sent there and in all likelihood to die.
    When university sports clubs are shut down for alleged sexism, why are these clowns not shut down for advocating and defending mass murder?
    Ahh, LGBT+ society. Now it’s clear.

  6. Even the Purge is not enough for such wickedness.

    Such shite must be turned into pariahs.

    Laws to prevent identified young leftist scum as above from EVER being involved in law/politics/media/academia (which needs to be gone anyway) and most esp to keep them out of any sort of teaching. Literally arrest and jail with hard labour if they attempt ever to enter ANY of the above fields so much as one hour throughout their entire life.

    We have raised a generation of especially vile vipers and they must be crushed underfoot or they will destroy almost literally everything they touch.

  7. The crimes of communism have been whitewashed because most of those who write the histories are sympathetic to it.

    There was an excellent series made in the late 90’s called ‘ The Nazis – A warning from History’. There has never been an equivalent series about communism. Weird, huh?

  8. How much of this leftist tripe is driven by intentionally muddled “thinking” surrounding intrinsic/extrinsic characteristics?

    Gulags good because being a good communist is extrinsic and can be “re-educated” into you, after which you may be able to return to society and support the system that brutalized you.

    Death camps bad because you can’t be “de-Jewed”, it’s intrinsic.

    (Although worryingly large parts of the left seem to have no problem with the latter either, but I digress.)

    Along with this, denial that biological sex is an intrinsic characteristic (but race is), so you can pick. While insisting that sexuality is intrinsic so you can’t ‘scriminate.

  9. Agree with Theo, they have shown themselves to be ill-equipped intellectually to be at University and should be excluded sans compo. University expansion being another poisonous legacy left to us by Blair etc.

    Also agree with Jimmers. Name and shame the denier cvnts. Ironic that they’d be high up the list for Gulag incarceration for moral degeneracy.

    Anyone ever read the full Gulag Archipelago? I’ve read the abridged version and don’t know if I’d have the stamina for anything longer. I prefer the witty and punchy Kolyma Tales short stories of Varlam Shalamov.

  10. Bernie G ” What’s the attraction, rebelling against your parents?”

    In a nutshell.

    And that is what makes the middle class left the piss-boiling vile scum they are.

    There is some –very-small– justification for the working classes of the 19th /early 20th century to have swallowed the Utopian cockrot of socialism. Hard lives and a small amount of education. Altho’ I increasingly think education was better then than now.

    But the scum of middle class offspring? Not those who worked and suffered to become MC but their shite brats most of whom have never had a days financial hardship in their worthless lives?

    Christ you only have to look at human offal like the People’s Antisemite and McNasty to know that they are still working some adolescent beef against middle class Mummy and Daddy. The children of wealth and “respectability” still playing “Fuck you ” with the parents long after gravestone mould is the biggest problem said parents can cause.

    To have all the evil of socialism let loose on the basis of such childish shite is piss-boiling indeed.

  11. BiG,

    “denial that biological sex is an intrinsic characteristic (but race is)”

    I thought you could self-identfiy for this too – pace the ludicrous Elizabeth Warren.

  12. I’m reading The First Circle by Solzhenitsyn at the moment. It’s pretty dull but does eviscerate Communism thoroughly.

    It’s not just the evilness of the gulags that Solzhenitsyn exposes but the way that everything and everyone is reduced to mediocrity by the system.

    I hope he wrote more interesting novels as they should be on the Goldsmiths reading list too.

  13. First Circle is about as good as the novels get. Gulag Archipelago is his great achievement. And yes, read it in full, all 1500 pages. Marvellous, marvellous, stuff.

  14. “There is some –very-small– justification for the working classes of the 19th /early 20th century to have swallowed the Utopian cockrot of socialism. Hard lives and a small amount of education. Altho’ I increasingly think education was better then than now.”

    You don’t have to be a raving revolutionary to see that blokes slaving (and dying) down a coal mine owned by Lord Whoever who lived in a massive mansion and had luxuries they couldn’t even dream of might well be susceptible to a bit of socialist thinking. At least it was thinking of a rational nature – I’ve got now’t, he’s got everything, lets take it off him and share it out, I’ll be better off.

    Current leftist thinking is totally irrational, a marker for some severe psychological disorders.

    And you’re right about education back then – my great aunts and uncles grew up in the first 2 decades of the 20th century, their level of articulacy and numeracy were streets ahead of todays school leavers, and they all left school at 13.

  15. This phenomenon is a large part of why so many American conservatives have stopped shunning potential allies with explicitly racist beliefs.
    The American Right thoroughly denounced racism for decades, yet the largest news, entertainment, and education providers continued to insist that they were racist anyway, either by changing the definition of “racism” or by flat-out lying. Meanwhile, the left spent half their time insisting that people claiming they had soviet sympathies were paranoid, and the other half insisting that soviet sympathies were actually a good thing. The result was gradual increasing of the scope of government decision making, while any attempts to argue against it had to be watered down with a paragraph or two of “And this isn’t racist because…” that was as likely to be dismissed as read.
    Then we got a candidate who dismissed the conclusions of a judge as coming from a “Mexican”. We decided “Well, we’re going to be called ‘racist’ anyway; might as well bump up our vote totals with some actual racists”.
    It’s not a good thing, but I’m not convinced it isn’t the best option out of several bad ones.

  16. “And you’re right about education back then –”

    I remember reading that recruits for the Royal marines circa 1895 had higher rates of literacy and numeracy than modern recruits.

  17. Theo

    No. Their nonsense is a result of ‘educating’ people beyond the level of their analytical intelligence, which makes them prone to indoctrination. Such people (who may have other forms of intelligence) can be instructed or trained: they can’t be educated to think critically and sceptically. And leftist academics exploit this.

    That perfectly nails one or two youngsters I know! Left school as smartish kids and potentially useful. Later came out of so called “university” as indoctrinated cretins, only “employable” (if that) in either the public or charity sectors.

  18. Unlike Nazism and Nuremberg, there has never been a trial of communism after the disintegration of the USSR when all of their ruling class had been guilty of similar atrocities. But the same ruling class stayed more or less in power so they had no interest in going after themselves…

    The worrying thing with people like those idiots is that we’ve seen it before like for example, the maoist students waving their little red book and sending anyone they didn’t like to death. I think they are apologists for mass murders and should be treated as such.

  19. You don’t need the state to do anything about these people. You need at-will employment and a reduced state

    The Conservatives never get this. Siege more money on universities, you’re spending more money creating and feeding your opposition.

  20. @Bloke on M4, September 13, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    +1 Conservative politicians never learn appeasing the left is counter productive.

  21. Jonathan said:
    “I remember reading that recruits for the Royal marines circa 1895 had higher rates of literacy and numeracy than modern recruits”

    It’s in James Bartholomew’s superb book “the welfare state we’re in” (or something like it is). But from memory it’s even worse than that – literacy of boys joining the navy in the 19th century (which was not generally a career to attract the most academic) was higher than general school-leaver literacy today.

  22. The time is coming fast when these people need to be resisted with deadly force. If some mentally ill demi-human wants to put me in a prison camp for saying it’s a mentally ill demi human then it needs to be dead, quick. The same goes for Antifa and jihadists. The socialists of various stripes killed off 100 million-plus last century and the shariah-compliant have a butcher’s bill of perhaps a quarter of a billion. We can’t go through that again.

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