Just to remind everybody

No one, no one at all, is measuring life expectancy. Also, no one is measuring anything about people born in a particular place.

The first drop in life expectancy in Scotland for 35 years should “shame” both the Scottish and UK governments, it has been claimed.

Official figures revealed that life expectancy for men had fallen slightly from 77.07 years for boys born in 2014-16, to 77.02 years for those born in 2015-17. Over the same period, the figure for women fell from 81.15 years to 81.09 years.

Opposition parties said the data from the National Records of Scotland was a “wake up call” for the SNP administration and all those involved in public health.

What is being measured is the length of life of those born 70 and 80 years ago. We then assume that those born today will live that long. Umm, mean age of death or summat, median?, so once we’ve got past 50% of them being dead we’ve a good idea.

We also don’t measure it from births in Scotland. We measure where people die, not where they’re born. This might not be so important over a nation, but it definitely matters more locally. Measuring the age at which people die in the Gorbals is an extremely bad guide the the age at which people born there die. Because migration.

17 comments on “Just to remind everybody

  1. The bonus is that it’s 18 days (ish) less of senility – sitting in your piss not recognising the family when they come to visit. What’s not to like?

  2. When an article says “it has been claimed” you know it is either extremely tenuous or it is something the writer disapproves of. Normally they try to blag “experts say”.

    The BBC is particularly notorious for this. Bollocks study pushing a Progressive agenda? “Experts say”.

  3. People in the media running around screaming that increases in human life expectancy are slowing down or have stopped.

    Surely they realise that this must happen at some point?…

  4. @Rob

    Life expectancy was increasing by several months per year fairly recently which to this non-expert does seem unsustainable.

    But it’s interesting that UK life expectancy has stalled at a lower value than several comparable countries, which suggests the trend should/could have lasted a bit longer.

  5. There was some talk that it could be due to recent bad flu seasons etc., which at least sounds plausible. What’s also certain is that it has also occurred during the start of lifestyle fascism courtesy of Public Harm England. The cure is obvious, more lifestyle fascism.

    I don’t think anyone understands truly the impact of mass prescription of blood pressure reducing medicines, and statins. Plus a lot fewer people are enjoying the benefits of a reasonable level of alcohol consumption. Also immigration.

    But as I say expect doubling down on lifestyle fascism.

  6. But it’s interesting that UK life expectancy has stalled at a lower value than several comparable countries, which suggests the trend should/could have lasted a bit longer.

    Do these other countries have comparable health care systems?

  7. Ian Reid,

    You are dead right. Someone who has high blood pressure is prescribed a medication that, as a side effect, puts on weight. Periodically, in the Doctor’s Surgery (staffed by overweight receptionists) the patient victim is exhorted to lose weight. The said medication also increases cholesterol. So it’s understandable that along with the first medication comes a statin. The side effects of the statin include increased blood sugar, combined with the most hellish muscle spasms. Plus, some of the combinations cause other unwanted effects: loss of muscle mass generally, impotence in men, and a whole bunch of others.
    The blood sugar now needs treatment. So there are a range of drugs for that. One affects your eyesight. One makes you suicidal. Another screws your pancreas up – weird, since a working pancreas seems to me to be a desirable thing if you have high blood sugar. This is essentially medication-induced type 2 diabetes.
    Some of the side effects are reversible, if caught in time, and the medication dropped. Some are permanent, if you were stupid enough to take the pills as prescribed.
    A huge con..

  8. The ever-interesting James Le Fanu suspects that it’s the poly-pharmacy that’s doing it. That is, our beloved NHS is killing people by incentivising/instructing doctors to put them on too many medicines.

    His latest “Too Many Pills” is well worth a read. His earlier “The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine” is a must-read.

  9. This was caused by tory policies of destroying Scottish industry. The tories did this. They cut down life expectency in Scotland, because English nationalists hate Scotland, and all other nations other than England.

  10. @ Ian Reid
    Yes, the ONS specifically stated that the reason why mortality rates in the latest three-year period (2015-7) had not improved was due to a bad flu season and “excess winter deaths” due to a cold winter.
    The underlying trend of improvement has not halted but two erratic factors have had an impact that cancelled out the improvement due to the trend.
    Naturally the left-wing media blames the government for the weather.

  11. @ Tim
    The “life expectancy” is based on mortality rates over 2015-7 for all ages – i.e. it is the projected life expectancy for a baby born in that period if mortality rates at all ages froze, remaining constant at those levels for the next 112 years [which of course they will not]. It is an artificial construct but gives a simple picture to the amateur.

  12. “Yes, the ONS specifically stated that the reason why mortality rates in the latest three-year period (2015-7) had not improved was due to a bad flu season and “excess winter deaths” due to a cold winter.”

    So can we expect another non-improvement cured by excess mortality caused by the hot summer? If not then more global warming, please.

  13. @ Gerardo Meza Jr
    Excuse me, but English nationalists love Scottish industry – it reduces the number of Scots migrating to England where we have a housing shortage.
    You are doing your very best to look like an idiot.

  14. Of course, importing millions of third world descendants of first cousin marriages will have no effect whatever on life expectancy.

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