This is interesting from Nick Cohen, isn’t it

The fight against lethal bigotry is as feeble as the fight against money laundering. Whether they are banks handling looted resources or Silicon Valley companies resisting demands to spend a portion of their profits on hiring editors to moderate content, the guilty parties can rely on governments to regulate them with the lightest of touches.

At the level of traditional policing, few can fault the state’s vigilance. The British neo-Nazi outfit National Action celebrated Jo Cox’s murder – “only 640 MPs to go”, it declared. The government banned it and in July a judge jailed two of its members for plotting the murder of another Labour woman, Rosie Cooper MP. In a pattern familiar to watchers of Islamist groups, National Action rebranded itself as NS131 (National Socialist Anti-Capitalist Action) and the government had to ban the reincarnation too.

Yet as far as the online world is concerned, NS131 remains an active propagandist. Google it and you reach its site as you can reach the sites of Bomb Islam, God Hates Fags, the American Nazi party and many another incendiary organisation.

National Action is guarded by the San Francisco company Cloudflare, which serves about 100,000 of the million most-visited sites. The first amendment to the US constitution gives vast protections to freedom of publication, which are extended to the extremists whose content Cloudflare holds. So vigorously does it seek their business that Wired magazine described Cloudflare as “acting like the muscle guarding the podium at a Nazi rally”. No global tech conglomerate can operate with a base in just one country, however.

To speed up downloads, Cloudflare has built “edge servers” – data centres that store content locally. There are 30 in Europe, including one in London and one in Manchester. The British government cannot regulate the worldwide web, but it could enforce the law in Britain. The anti-fascists at Hope not Hate begged ministers to make Cloudflare’s British operations comply with anti-Nazi legislation.

You see what’s done there?

Anti-incitement to violence legislation, sure, why not? Anti-bigotry legislation? Hmm, well, maybe. But what a nice twist to turn that into anti-Nazi legislation. As if Nazis are the only people capable of bigotry or incitement….

27 comments on “This is interesting from Nick Cohen, isn’t it

  1. “Anti-bigotry legislation?”

    As many religious Muslims and Jews regard non-Muslims and non-Jews as inferior beings, I wonder if Mr Cohen will be calling for a crackdown?

  2. “So vigorously does it seek their business that Wired magazine described Cloudflare as “acting like the muscle guarding the podium at a Nazi rally””

    Jesus fucking Christ. What utter horseshit.

    Cloudflare have some huge US corporate clients. I seriously, seriously doubt they’re wining and dining a few cranky Nazis.

    And really, the government probably know that blocking cache servers for a few sites is not only a ton of extra bureaucracy and that it’ll make fuck all difference. The benefit of Cloudflare to Nazis isn’t caching speed, it’s about handling DDOS attacks. They’ll filter that shit out for you.

  3. Doesn’t this come under the heading: Questions to which the answer is no?

    Nick Cohen does not write interesting stuff. Just stuff. Or stuff and nonsense.

  4. “Nazi” is a handy abbreviation for an anti-semitic socialist party.

    Will Mr Corvid be upset if I apply it to his shower?

  5. ‘The fight against lethal bigotry is as feeble as the fight against money laundering. Whether they are banks handling looted resources or Silicon Valley companies resisting demands to spend a portion of their profits on hiring editors to moderate content’

    The companies he is referring to, ‘Silicon Valley,” are platforms, not publishers. ‘Hiring editors to moderate content’ would change their business to publishers, which would crash their business model.

    As platforms, they have no duty to ‘fight against lethal bigotry’ (sic). They are not responsible for content.

    The great thing about Guardian writers is they aren’t afraid to display their ignorance to the world.

  6. I wish people would stop using the slang and overused word ‘NAZI’ and use the full title ‘National Socialism’

    VOTE labour

  7. “As many religious Muslims and Jews regard non-Muslims and non-Jews as inferior beings…”

    Every group thinks at least one other group is inferior. It is human nature. The Germans look down on the Slavs, the French on the Anglo-Saxons, the Portuguese on the Spanish, the Norwegians on Lapps, etc. The problem arises when inferiority is assumed to justify hatred, persecution, enslavement or elimination. Muslims make that assumption; Jews don’t.

    Likewise, as groups, I think sub-saharans, other Afros and Muslims are inferior to White Brits. This doesn’t mean I hate them or want to eliminate them. It means I don’t want to live beside them on this island.

  8. Ah yes, the government doesn’t censor people like those nasty Chinese and Russians. Instead it leans heavily on service providers to withdraw services to wrong-thinkers, dressing it up as the independent decision of a private company. How long before voting for a right wing party gets your insurance and credit cards cancelled? They are already trying this against gun owners in the US.

  9. If more people pointed out daily the 150 million murders so far committed by socialism it would by far more difficult for the evil cunts to get away with Cohen’s style of sanctimonious posturing.

  10. Likewise, as groups, I think sub-saharans, other Afros and Muslims are inferior to White Brits.

    Everyone is inferior to people from North West Surrey, with the exception of one remarkable redhead from West Yorkshire.

    The degree of inferiority is dependent on the amount of utter bollocks one believes. Muslims are certainly highly inferior, but so are Australian Aboriginals who revere a large rock.

  11. It’s *disgusting* that United Paper Mills haven’t hired anybody to moderate the content of the Daily Mail. Disgusting, I tells ye!

  12. @Theo:

    ” Muslims make that assumption; Jews don’t.”

    Of course they do. They just don’t usually have the numbers to enforce their will.
    How did it work out for the Spanish when Jews allied themselves with invading Muslims?
    How well are Christians treated in modern Israel?
    Many Jewish festivals – e.g Passover and Hanukkah – celebrate the slaughter of non-Jews by Jews.

  13. Jonathan

    “How did it work out for the Spanish when Jews allied themselves with invading Muslims?”

    Do you have a source for this vague accusation? In any event, some Christians allied themselves with the invading Muslims…

    “How well are Christians treated in modern Israel?”

    Broadly speaking, very well, I understand.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Israel

    “Many Jewish festivals – e.g Passover and Hanukkah – celebrate the slaughter of non-Jews by Jews.”

    The Passover celebrates God’s freeing the Israelites from slavery in Egypt under the leadership of Moses. Hanukkah commemorates the rededication of the Second Temple in Jerusalem at the time of the Maccabean Revolt against the Seleucid Empire. Neither “celebrate” the killing of non-Jews.

  14. – “The anti-fascists [sic] at Hope not Hate begged ministers to make Cloudflare’s British operations comply with anti-Nazi legislation.”

    That’ll be the same Hope not Hate movement which consistently and relentlessly daemonises and scurrilously misrepresents UKIP and its supported, would it.

  15. “Do you have a source for this vague accusation?”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain

    How well are Christians treated in modern Israel?”

    Broadly speaking, very well, I understand.

    Errr……

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4715226

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christians-in-jerusalems-old-city-under-threat-from-settlers

    Hanukkah:

    https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-hanukkah-2076477

    Passover:

    “At the stroke of midnight of 15 Nissan in the year 2448 from creation (1313 BCE), G‑d visited the last of the ten plagues on the Egyptians, killing all their firstborn.”

    https://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/871715/jewish/Passover-2019-Pesach.htm

  16. Do you have a source for this vague accusation?

    ” The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise”:
    https://tinyurl.com/ycd28k5f

    Broadly speaking, very well, I understand.

    Physical and verbal abuse on a daily basis isn’t being treated well:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christians-in-jerusalems-old-city-under-threat-from-settlers

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4715226

    Passover celebrates the mass killing of Egyptians by the Jewish God.

    Hanukkah celebrates the killing of Greeks by Jewish terrorists.

  17. “Passover celebrates the mass killing of Egyptians by the Jewish God.”

    The fact they were whipped slaves at the time makes no never mind to you obviously.

    As for Greeks–one man’s freedom fighter etc.

    That the RoP “Golden Age” was cockrot is increasingly well known. But why blame Jews? British arabist dickheads of the 19th century did as much to spread that myth as anybody.

    What else? Two gobbing incidents reported in the lie-sheet of the Western World? Persecution? Percy Bullshit more like .

    Perhaps you would be more comfy on some ZaNu site where you can praise the People’s Anti-Semite for his good works. Or Radio 2 perhaps where a hymn of praise to the “fresh new ideas” of the senile Marxist coprolite just had 20 minutes of airtime.

  18. Jonathan

    I’ve read ‘The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise’, it doesn’t say what you seem to think it says.

  19. “.. I was going to refute you, but Ecksy has done a far better job than I would have.”

    Oh dear Theo. If Ecksys usual bluster and bullshit is the best you can do, probably best not to try….

    Your philo-semitism will never be reciprocated. Meanwhile Jewish individuals and organisations will still be pushing for mass non-white immigration into Europe.

    Good luck!

  20. Jonathan

    I am neither a jew-hater or a jew-lover. I am generally indifferent to Jews. I grant you that, bizarrely, some Jews say that they feel safer living in a ‘multi-cultural society’ and so are inclined to favour more immigration into the UK. However, as immigrants go, Jews in the UK number less than 300,000, and they don’t try to blow us up, most have integrated very well and many make a useful contribution to wider society. Compare and contrast muslims – many of whom want to blow us up, haven’t integrated and make little contribution to wider society. Moreover, 85% of muslims voted for Corbyn in 2017 compared to 26% of Jews.

  21. “Will Mr Corvid be upset if I apply it to his shower?”

    I expect that large numbers of Crows, Rooks & other members of the Corvid family will take exception to that remark! They are (unlike the loathsome Jeremy) very intelligent…

  22. Johnathon–My bluster and bullshit beats your snide snottery anyday chump.

    Some Jews may be pushing for non-white migration etc. So what? Without the treasonous scum of the middle class white European left on the job a whore’s prayers would be have more chance.

    There are nasty people everywhere as your existence now attests.

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