Missing the point a bit, no?

Congrats, Idris Elba: but next year, let’s have a less macho sexiest man alive
Caspar Salmon

Sigh, macho is just another word we use to describe that male sexiness.

Sue, there are indeed other tastes out there.

This can feel surprising in the era of the internet, when gay twink culture has fed into straight desire, with men such as Timothée Chalamet (age 22) hitting the scene. This sort of desire, which abstracts men from status up to a point, and privileges a gaze that is unafraid to objectify, is nowhere to be seen in the People list.

Seriously? A look, a desire even, which is by definition about boys not men is to be used a the standard by which men are judged sexy?

27 comments on “Missing the point a bit, no?

  1. I can’t work out what that paragraph means. Is he saying it’s ok to ‘objectify’ twinks? Isn’t ‘twink’ an offensive term?

  2. His general point is – I like boys*, why doesn’t a predominantly heterosexual society share that taste?

    *OK, men that look boyish, those twinks

  3. Yeah, Caspar missed that venn diagram of teenage girls and middle aged homosexuals. But he did say he found it funny that the People award didn’t reflect this rather than some breach of a duty, which made me warm to him.

  4. Does anyone else find this sexual objectification of men highly offensive?

    Anyone for a SJW-fashion twitterstorm? Force them to apologise, back down, confirm they “didn’t intend to cause any offence”, and not repeat their sins?

  5. “Not that People has a duty to reflect all sorts of beauty, but its museum-like display of strong, mostly white, straight-acting men does tell us something about the dominant culture, and is, let’s face it, funny.”

    Actually Edris Elba is the epitome of straight acting culture.

  6. Weedy soy boy who looks like he’d struggle with opening a ring pull, objects that other people don’t find people who look like him sexy.

    Of course he made the mistake of decrying the sainted Idris which seems to have led to him issuing an apology today.Though quite why some people think he’s great anyway as he always plays the same character and appears to be a bit of a shit in his personal life to boot

  7. “when gay twink culture has fed into straight desire”

    Whatdewhatnow?

    Is he saying that he thinks straight men fancy boyish men, because he does?

  8. “he always plays the same character”

    No bad thing if the same character is a good one.

    John Wayne pretty much did that as did Sean Connery* and Michael Caine (once he’d left Rourke’s Drift).

    *Except in The Offence which I think is a very good and rather disturbing film and gave a hint that Connery could actually act as opposed to being Sean Connery.

  9. The Gays versus Black Fellas, round one, FIGHT:

    Caspar Salmon
    @CasparSalmon
    Yesterday in what was supposed to be a lighthearted article trolling a stupid and historically racist award, my own privilege led me to overlook racial nuances & be insensitive. I’m sorry for that.

    Black wins! Flawless Victory!

  10. This sort of desire, which abstracts men from status up to a point, and privileges a gaze that is unafraid to objectify

    Fucking dreadful writing. Pretentious, opaque, meaningless balls. Standard Guardian fodder, in fact.

    Of course he made the mistake of decrying the sainted Idris which seems to have led to him issuing an apology today

    Lol. Contemptible wanker.

  11. my own privilege led me to overlook racial nuances & be insensitive

    Is there a higher suicide rate among people who think like this?

  12. Rob– Knowing that you support a death cult with 150 million up murders so far should destroy their psyche all by itself. If they actually had any of the compassion and empathy the redscum endlessly bullshit about.

  13. How amusing. His grovelling apology seems to be based on one bloke having a go at him. Not much backbone our Caspar.

    gay twink culture has fed into straight desire

    File under ‘never happened’.

    Is there a higher suicide rate among people who think like this? Hopefully evolution is on this…

  14. Not much backbone our Caspar.

    Give a dog a bad name…

    His parents should’ve given him a macho name, such as Bruce, Steve, or Shagger.

  15. Dear Mr Worstall

    And in next week’s news – “sexiest man alive” condemned as too live-ist. Caspar the unfriendly ghost will be taking up the case.

    DP

  16. “. . . when gay twink culture has fed into straight desire . . . .”

    The problem here is, if you’ve seen a picture of the author of this article, is that he’s gay and doesn’t know it. And he’s confused.

    That’s why he’s attracted to twinks – and for some reason think that mainstream straight women are too.

  17. “Andrew C
    November 8, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    Is he saying that he thinks straight men fancy boyish men, because he does?”

    The way I read, he’s saying *straight women* fancy boyish men – because he does.

  18. This can feel surprising in the era of the internet, when gay twink culture has fed into straight desire, with men such as Timothée Chalamet (age 22) hitting the scene. This sort of desire, which abstracts men from status up to a point, and privileges a gaze that is unafraid to objectify, is nowhere to be seen in the People list.

    That paragraph is funnier than E. Macron embracing the idea of a European army.

  19. And today’s blessing can be counted as not knowing what “gay twink culture” actually is.

  20. ‘my own privilege led me to overlook racial nuances & be insensitive’

    Like Idris Elba gives a shit about what this twinky says.

    His ‘own privilege’ is higher than Idris Elba’s? What a maroon.

    Every time you think the Guardian couldn’t be stupider, they raise the bar.

  21. I am deeply sceptical about racial miscegnation. I do wonder whether women aren’t biologically inclined to yield to an invader – mating being preferable to rape and/or death…

    Culture is (at least partly) a racial construct; and race is not a social construct but a biological reality.  So people aren’t culturally inter-changeable. Transplant, say, an afro or muslim into western society, and the last thing you’ll get is a western liberal. Minus Christianity the afro becomes a savage. The Muslim forms a ghetto, seething with resentment and breeding savages.

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