I’m very against Whitey until he gives me a gong

I dislike the link to empire, but it felt wrong to turn down an OBE
David Olusoga

The odd bead and bauble does seem to buy people. Therefore why not Manhattan, entire countries?

35 comments on “I’m very against Whitey until he gives me a gong

  1. “My view as a historian is that the empire was an extractive, exploitative, racist and violent institution….”

    So an historian who is neither rigorous or balanced is being honoured.

  2. He looks like a one book wonder. Does everyone who publishes one book and gets a BBC gig receive an OBE?

    Presumably Dan Snow will soon be CH

  3. The entire Tory strategy is to become NuLabour while Labour are busy becoming hard line commies, thus ensuring everyone in the country, yea, even unbalanced, racist black academics.

    Fools.

  4. Well done to David. It’s a pat on the back not on the head. I believe him when he said he felt he couldn’t reasonably advocate for more people of his background to be given gongs and then turn one down himself. Still some more work to do to get up to commander level for example like David Starkey.

  5. Without Empire Olusoga wouldn’t be in the uk in the first place. Without slavery he wouldn’t have a career. Empire – wasted on africans. I note he’s in no hurry to live in Nigeria where he was born where he wouldn’t have to put up with living with a bunch of white racists.

  6. There’s obviously good money to be made hating whitey.

    Also:

    ” …in recognition of the sacrifices made by their Windrush generation ancestors. ”

    What sacrifices?

  7. Theo: “My view as a historian is that the empire was an extractive, exploitative, racist and violent institution….”

    So an historian who is neither rigorous or balanced is being honoured.

    “My view as AN historian is that the empire was an extractive, exploitative, racist and violent institution….”

    So an historian who is neither rigorous or balanced or able to write grammatically is being honoured.

  8. Yeah, well… You don’t get to rule half the planet by being Mary Poppins, do you? But if you wanted to hand out awards for empires that treated their subject peoples like complete shit, the Spanish would clear the board. Closely followed by the Portuguese. With the French & Belgians chasing their heels. And that’s only in the European division. He sbould thank his lucky stars Nigeria got the Brits who were hardly runners up in the game.

  9. BiS – Are you making the distinction that Belgium insisted upon, namely that the Congo was the personal fiefdom of the Belgian King rather than a colony of Belgium?

  10. “received a letter asking if they would be willing to accept a public honour, in my case an OBE. This exhilarating and humbling news led not to high-fives and backslappingbut to a crisis of soul-searching”

    Yes the soul-searching must have been agonising for you. I am so pleased you are a man of real integrity whose soul-searching concluded with you feeling truly humble, hiring the suit, popping off to the Palace, posing for the photos that will accompany every publicity piece you ever produce from now on and taking initials that will never be separated from your name from this day forward. Oh the humility, the integrity the SOUL.

  11. My view as a historian is that the empire was an extractive, exploitative, racist and violent institution

    How does it compare with all the advanced civilisations created by blacks tho.

  12. @steve – What do you mean that Wakanda is fictional ? (Can’t help laughing that in the scene to chose who’s going to be king they dress up as gorillas)

  13. Africa just isnt prone to advanced civilisations. Major population centres had low peak populations: Timbuktu (50,000) or Great Zimbabwe (18,000).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu#History
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe#Construction_and_growth

    Compare this to the population of Paris in the 14th century 200,000

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_in_the_Middle_Ages#Population

    Or to Imperial China – in the 14th century Dadu (Beijing) had a population of 952,000

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Beijing#Yuan_dynasty

  14. For those who are so concerned about grammar (if only you would occasionally get it right) try this http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html

    “At one time, an was the preferred usage before an unaccented syllable beginning with h. This is what the grammarian’s grammarian, Henry Fowler, has to say on the subject:

    . . . an was formerly used before an unaccented syllable beginning with h and is still often seen and heard (an historian, an hotel, an hysterical scene, an hereditary title, an habitual offender). But now that the h in such words is pronounced, the distinction has become anomalous and will no doubt disappear in time. Meantime, speakers who like to say an should not try to have it both ways by aspirating the h. “

  15. Last time I checked, the “E” in OBE stood for “Empire”.

    Scratch a Lefty, find an imperialist.

  16. There is nothing I hate more than people who say things like ‘an historian’. Nothing.

    It’s just pure revolt and disgust. It sounds both ugly and pretentious.

    Furthermore it appears to be the BBC style guide these days. Don’t they realise it just sounds contorted and stupid?

  17. Do wogs give acceptance speeches for gongs?

    Is there a dinner-dance or something where they are given out?

    If so, the acceptance speech would be one for the ages…

    “I’d like to thank all the extractive, exploitative, racist and violent white people who made this OBE happen…”

  18. “There is nothing I hate more than people who say things like ‘an historian’. Nothing. It’s just pure revolt and disgust. It sounds both ugly and pretentious.”

    Really? Nothing? More than Spud or Corbyn?

    I used “an historian” without thinking about it, because it sounds right to my ear. Schoolboy Greek: ‘istoria’.

  19. DtP
    Whenever a wog with a nice line in anti-imperialism receives a UK gong, the liberal elite line up to kiss his arse after his acceptance speech. Our traditions evolve…

  20. Whenever a wog with a nice line in anti-imperialism receives a UK gong, the liberal elite line up to kiss his arse after his acceptance speech. Our traditions evolve…

    Kind of like the MacArthur Genius Grants awarded here in the States. If you’re an artist, you can’t be well known (much less popular), and if you’re an academic or an activist you have to be anti-capitalist at the least and anti-capitalist and anti-American at the best. Evidently genius involves being obscure and progressive.

  21. “Really? Nothing? More than Spud or Corbyn?”

    Afraid so. Except maybe Corbyn saying ‘an historian’. That might do it.

    “I used “an historian” without thinking about it, because it sounds right to my ear. Schoolboy Greek: ‘istoria’.”

    Except you don’t say ‘istorian. Or 90% don’t anyway. If they did, then fine. So it might work for cockneys and Essex boys.

  22. @DtP

    OBEs are often awarded to retiring senior civil servants, when it’s generally accepted that the award is for Other Bugger’s Efforts.

  23. Oblong, for me it is far easier to say an historian or an hotel (with a very light h) rather than force myself to say a hotel or a historian because then I have to make that glottal stop to get the break between the vowel and the h. The latter examples are what Parker would say, making a conscious attempt to haspirate the h.

  24. Strangely we never hear a word about Zulu colonialism and slaughter, yet natives used to run to the British for protection. As Black Lives Matter teaches us to this day, it’s apparently okay if black people are killed by other black people.

  25. @AndrewC – January 7, 2019 at 11:04 pm

    OBEs are often awarded to retiring senior civil servants, when it’s generally accepted that the award is for Other Bugger’s Efforts.

    Whereas the lower-rated MBE tends to go to non-connected individuals for something they’ve achieved rather than being received by right… Hence “My Bloody Efforts”. 🙂

  26. ‘The poet Benjamin Zephaniah rejected his because, as he said, it had been the “concept of empire that my British education led me to believe that the history of black people started with slavery”’

    History is written. Black Africans had no written language. This dude David Olusoga, who sure looks white to me, says he is a(n) historian. For a(n) historian to not know that history is written – hence the history of black people did indeed start with slavery, when Brits with A WRITTEN LANGUAGE, got involved with black Africans – is a(n) idiot.

    Seriously, this is weapons grade stupid.

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