Guess which child of the colonies didn’t get an OBE this year?

To accept an OBE is to condone the brutality of empire
Priyamvada Gopal
David Olusoga has attempted to justify his honour. But surely black and Asian Britons should try to undo imperial delusions

Those delusions which are the reason you’re here?

21 comments on “Guess which child of the colonies didn’t get an OBE this year?

  1. Priyamvada Gopal’s January 2020 headline almost writes itself

    “Having struggled with my conscience I have decided that it is in the best interests of raising awareness and other reasons to accept this gong, despite everything I have ever said up to this point. And you people are very lucky to have me.”

  2. Maybe he meant

    To accept an OBE is to condone the brutality of empire so I want an honour that doesn’t mention the empire. A knighthood would be good, please please, pretty please.

  3. Sure black and Asian Britons should be able to make up their own minds?

    Rather than slavishly obey the dictates of ‘community leaders’ or progressive shills?

  4. Somehow, I doubt Priyamvada Gopal ever condemns the brutality of the Mauryan, Mughal, Gupta, Maratha, Kushan and Harsha Empires or the Delhi Sultanate. It’s more important to guilt-trip whitey.

  5. But surely black and Asian Britons

    Don’t constantly scream “racialist!” at British institutions? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  6. ” Does having a few black names with OBE after them really signify that the British establishment acknowledges the profound historical contributions of black and Asian people to this nation, not least through producing much of its wealth? ”

    LoL.

    I guess the Industrial Revolution took place in India and Sub – Saharan Africa now?

  7. During the time of the slave trade etc. it was usual for the chiefs and rulers of the parts of Africa now in recently created states to sell their surplus and unwanted people, often captives etc. of tribal wars. For a long time these were Arabic traders but later European traders realised the profits to made in relation to the development of The America’s. In the 21st Century it has been convenient to restrict the “history” to European. Apart from that quite why over half a century on since its collapse we continue to use the word “Empire” is a puzzle.

  8. And so David Olusoga’s soul-searching and heart-wrenching will continue and become even more unbearable for him. Well, I say unbearable; he’ll still take it of course.

  9. I guess the Industrial Revolution took place in India and Sub – Saharan Africa now?

    Minicab drivers and mumble rappers are paying our pensions, bigot.

  10. The Hyderabad massacre in 1948 should be more widely known, official estimates up to 50,000 murdered, unofficial way higher.

  11. “The Hyderabad massacre in 1948 “: Hindu empire-building doesn’t count. Ditto the deaths in Kashmir over the years.

  12. Tim – you’ve got Ragging on Ritchie etc – perhaps you should have a Yasmin alibhai brown award for most ungrateful import who can’t stand the english. First prize – one way ticket back to the shithole they crawled out of.

  13. I guess the Industrial Revolution took place in India and Sub – Saharan Africa now?

    No, the narrative among a lot of Indians and Africans is that Britain got wealthy because they stole resources from the colonies, as if we robbed a bank.

  14. “stole resources”?

    The only value third world resources have and ever had are from western civ being skilled enough to use them.

    Resources are useless rocks or oily sludge until brains are applied. Plus they are usually a few thousand feet or more underground and the fine citizens of the Bongo-Bongo lands were still using wooden sticks as shovels and puzzling over the use of round things.

    Most of them still are in large part.

    Venezuela has “resources” and is too poor to afford toilet paper.

  15. It sounds like Dennis is familiar with Mungo Park’s Travels in the Interior of Africa.

    Well worth a read, even now.

    One – the descendants of the North African slave traders are today’s people traffickers.

    Two – African nations (tribes) all had quite disctinct characters and the European nations attempt to make countries by drawing lines on a map rather than by drawing round territories wasn’t a good idea. Having said that these “nations” seemed to spend the dry season fighting each other and didn’t develop much technology or culture.

  16. @Tim Newman:

    “… Britain got wealthy because they stole resources from the colonies, as if we robbed a bank.”

    Resources which were just as available for the natives to use but, for some reason, didn’t

    Hmmm. Makes you think.

  17. Didn’t the British empire build a lot of infrastructure in the colonies? I would wager that most of it is still being used.

  18. @Tim Newman
    The Colombian narrative is that they are poor because the Spanish stole Gold from them. However Costa Rica has zero Gold, precious stones left from the Spanish period (because there was zero beforehand) but is richer than Colombia which still has quite lot left.
    The book why nations fail say it is institutions which make countries rich not resources – which is why New Zealand is richer than Venezuela.
    It is not unfair to blame colonial countries for leaving poor institutions – of course the solution is to change them.

  19. I do think it’s a good time to rename these awards. We should celebrate Brexit by replacing “British Empire” by “British Independence”.

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