38 comments on “Rilly?

  1. On the rare occasions I have had the misfortune to read something by D Ancona it has been fairly obvious that he is no right winger.

    And with little to say I’d want to read.

  2. Not right wing by your standards obviously but right of center . There are many of us who find the idea a planned economy might work next time ludicrous but nonetheless regard elevating ethnic purity above prosperity as a Policy objective infantile
    Who are people who identify with business and pragmatic government supposed to vote for given a choice of Nutty Nazis and equally absurd sixth form Commies .
    There is, you may be suprised to hear, a long intellectual tradition we might call ” Conservative” that has, in the past been useful to this country.
    It is not the same same as the “Ooo look I have just read Hayek and think I am a pound shop contrarian” or a closet racist , a fruitcake or any other version of the sad single obsessive that currently infests the dark holes of on line public life.

    If I could sum it up it would be this way, whilst I have been frequently called a traitor , fifth communist and in general insufficiently English I would lay odds that i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare

    …or attended a Concert featuring Elgar or know which one out of Gilbert and Sullivan wrote the fucking words.

  3. @Newmania

    “I would lay odds that i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare

    …or attended a Concert featuring Elgar or know which one out of Gilbert and Sullivan wrote the fucking words.”

    You lose your pretentious, condescending, pompous bet.

    (assuming that the word ‘ONLY’ was supposed to have been in your post).

    (further assuming that you meant featuring Elgar’s music and not Elgar himself as he died decades before I was born)

  4. The odds are that Newmania did not understand a word of whatever piece of Shakespeare he saw or read. My guess is his nurse reads him a soliloquy every night at bedtime

  5. the sad single obsessive that currently infests the dark holes of on line public life

    O wad some Power the giftie gie us,
    To see oursels as ithers see us!

  6. @ newmania – what a prick – Shakespeare was on the gce o level English/english lit syllabus in the early 1970s and a quick search shows that it still is.So perhaps you are either not English or , too thick to have gone to a normal school – ie you went to a “special “school.

  7. ‘but nonetheless regard elevating ethnic purity above prosperity as a Policy objective infantile’

    You have been corrupted. You are racist.

    The goal is cultural purity, not ethnic purity. The problem with the current invasion is the government is not moving forcefully to integrate the new people into the culture. No attempt or even interest in teaching them Shakespeare, Elgar, or Gilbert and Sullivan.

    Your way newmania will bring an end Shakespeare and Elgar. The Magna Carta, common law, women’s rights, etc. will be replaced with Sharia law.

    Calling people trying to preserve Shakespeare and Elgar “Nazis” is evil. Demonizing your opposition makes YOU the Nazi.

  8. “i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare”

    As said by “…a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
    Signifying nothing.”

  9. The goal is cultural purity, not ethnic purity. …….

    How interesting and how will you distinguish between the bastard offspring of cultural miscegenation and the clean pure stream that nourishes Englishness? What about replacing that lascivious winding and a-grinding that one reads of, with a wholesome Morris dance?

  10. I once saw last night of the proms on the BBC and got Baz Luhrmann’s Romeo + Juliet on DVD. Does that make me as smart as Newmania?

  11. I`m quite a thicko really John but I do wonder if some bare minimum level of thought, might be required in order to be allowed to vote unchaperoned.
    What about

    Who is older Ghengis Khan or Attila the Hun ?
    How many potatoes did William the Conqueror eat ?
    Is a bat a furry bird ?

    That sort of thing ?

  12. @Newmania

    “I do wonder if some bare minimum level of thought, might be required in order to be allowed to vote unchaperoned.
    What about”

    What is the bigger prick?

    a) A giant fucking enormous prick
    b) Newmania

    Macbeth “That Newmania? Fucking enormous prick”
    Lady Macbeth “got one or is one?”
    Macbeth “Is one”
    Lady Macbeth (disappointed) “oh”
    Macbeth Act 2 Scene 1

  13. If I could sum it up it would be this way, whilst I have been frequently called a traitor , fifth communist and in general insufficiently English I would lay odds that i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare

    A glorious, semi-literate sentence worthy of Amanda Marcotte. Grammar and syntax be damned… Full steam ahead!

    If you ever read Shakespeare, son, it was because someone printed it inside a coloring book.

  14. Again you pollute this blog Facepainter. You are a middle class Marxist proggie shit sandwich with very thin pieces of bread.

    Not only do you suck the dick of your wannabe Global Elite ESpew masters –you fancy that you are some kind of elite because you are a pretentious twat who has read Shakespeare. Who cares? You can be the flunky who used to cut Ezra Pounds nose hairs for all it matters to anyone sane. You sack of treasonous tyranny-sucking EU mould. If we can’t meet your moronic standards we can’t vote? Who is going to fucking stop us Mr Middle-class-and-dickless? You? That would be a laugh for the Ages. Deciding where the first punch is going to hit you would be the biggest problem a sack of rancid syrup like you would ever pose. And posing is what you are all about Numbnuts.

    Altho–that said–it seems you can’t even pose a simple question you festering shitshonk.

    “Who is older Ghengis Khan or Attila the Hun ?”

    WTF does that mean? Which of the two lived longer –and was thus older–or which one was further back in historical time? I believe Geng lived to be the oldest as Attila burst a blood vessel at a celebration and Atilla is 5th century AD while GK–or Temuchin– is 13th century.

    “How many potatoes did William the Conqueror eat ?”

    That would be fucking none as they hadn’t arrived from the New World until the 16th century.

    ” Is a bat a furry bird ? ”

    Is a bat a furry bird? Is a fucking bat a furry fucking bird? You are asking us is….no its a fucking flying mammal. And you are a sack of foul EU-shite with a brain the size of a battered and unravelled golfball.

    An elite Facepainter? You are such low trash you couldn’t get taken on as an MP.

  15. I was just about to make a smart arsed comment that Attila was older because Jack Palance played him in 1954 and wasn’t Genghis Khan until 1961. But having looked it up on IMDB, Palance wasn’t GK, but one of his generals.
    Bugger.

    Anyway I wouldn’t go to an Elgar concert, much too late for me. I like Purcell.

  16. Mrs M (also a Leave voter, but for completely different reasons than mine) will be singing in Dream of Gerontius in a few weeks (tickets still available)

  17. This was my favourite Shakespeare quotation on June 24th 2016:

    Then give me leave, for losers will have leave
    To ease their stomachs with their bitter tongues.

  18. I know memory is a strange thing but I could have sworn that I saw John Thaw play Sir Toby in 12th Night and Ian McClellan play King Lear at Stratford. I also have a memory of seeing Merry Wives of Windsor at The Globe. Strange how Mrs BiND and I have had the same dreams.

    I also saw Taming the Shrew set in modern at Stratford – that was a nightmare.

  19. Matthew d’Ancona a right winger?

    When he was at Telegraph, other than being a Cameron sycophant – Conservative in name only; d’Ancona was not a right winger.

  20. “Newmania

    Are you peeved with me Andrew ?”

    Is this a test to see if I know what ‘peeved’ means?

    Seeing as you rather bonkersly* assumed that no-one on here would know Shakespeare, Elgar or G&S.

    *maybe it’s not a real word but Shakespeare never baulked at inventing words.

  21. @BiND

    My ‘O’ level Shakespeare was Macbeth, so we were treated (if that’s the word) by our trendy progressive English teacher to Polanski’s film, which had only been out 5 or so years at the time.

    “sex and violence, mate, that’s what the public want”
    W Shakespeare.

  22. “I would lay odds that i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare”

    Assuming you omitted the word ‘only’ from the above you would have lost the bet handsomely. I had no idea Shakespeare was pro- EU? I know the organisation has a habit of claiming for things it has not accomplished, like ‘keeping the peace in Europe’ but to arrogate England’s greatest dramatist – Wow! Nice

  23. “whilst I have been frequently called a traitor , fifth communist and in general insufficiently English I would lay odds that i am the person who ever comments here who has read or seen Shakespeare”

    I blame Nigel Farage. When he said the Remain campaign was orchestrated by the ‘global elite’ he was partially correct, but sadly gave a lot of 3rd rate halfwits an over-inflated sense of their own worth. It’s as if he touched them with Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

  24. Assuming you omitted the word ‘only’ from the above you would have lost the bet handsomely. I had no idea Shakespeare was pro- EU?

    Had Shakespeare been the Brexit man if his day instead of inventing the modern man, a drama with psychological development and much more he would have wanted to turn the clock back to the good old mystery cycle. Or perhaps the more basic theatre of his own day in which a man who was witless would be called
    ” Mr Little wit” just so the low browed Brexit volk got the message

    No great artist of any kind could ever be so small minded not even a Conservative one ( like Jane Austen say…. )

  25. @Newmania If you “prick” me ……

    You’d go pffffffffffffffff around the room before landing on the floor, you fucking windbag.

  26. I wouldn’t mind people like d’Ancona if the wets actually ever achieved much.

    “Oh, but Cameron won in 2010”. Yeah, against Gordon Brown, New Labour’s chancellor who created a boom and bust and was hardly a popular figure. He managed to get a coalition.

    And he only beat Milliband because he adopted an EU referendum from that nasty party, UKIP, which switched more voters to the Conservatives. And still only won by 12. Against Ed fucking Milliband

    Then another coalition.

    And they’ve squadered a decade. The only damn thing they’ve done is Brexit, and that wasn’t what they wanted. Totally failed to roll back the state.

  27. Is New-remainia a furry bird or is he a flying EU shitstirrer with delusions of intelligence? He sounds like a mental case –as if the writers of “Watch with Mother” tried to re-write Mein Kampf–“little-wit” FFS. The turd thinks he is elite. Most folk have scraped off their shoes substances more elite and less tawdrily commonplace that the Facepainter. The Original Home Counties Lackwit Loser.

  28. I saw Hamlet set in modern, well 3 decades ago ‘modern’ which was really quite good.

    Although the memories of the Polanski Macbeth have dimmed in the decades since, I can still remember the erm, quiet uproar in the classroom.

    Never actually appeared in proper Shakespeare (my year was an opera year and, no, me singing, no), although I did play Quince in the “Bottom’s Dream” adaptation. Much to my teenage angst.

    Iirc, we usually did a Shakspear play each year in the Autumn term and one more modern one in the Spring term.

  29. @Bloke on M4 January 29, 2019 at 11:04 am

    +1

    Esp “Totally failed to roll back the state” and failed “ending war on motorists”

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