34 comments on “Quite amazing

  1. putrid rubbish will fester in the streets, and slurry will stink out the countryside, risking a plague of rats

    I knew someone would get around to predicting plagues of something!

  2. I heard a cabinet minister last week claim that where to dump all the sheep carcasses was a worry as there weren’t enough land fill sites available. It was hard not to be rude.

  3. Just to reprise the government’s own warnings: putrid rubbish will fester in the streets, and slurry will stink out the countryside, risking a plague of rats. Sheep will be slaughtered, unexportable with a 60% tariff. Supermarket shelves will empty – it only takes a rumour to set off panic-buying. The NHS may lack medicines. The army and police stand ready for riots, all this costing £4.2bn. You may shrug off Project Fear forecasts – but the pound has already fallen 15%, carmaking has lost 50% investment in a year, and finance is in flight with 2% less growth. The business minister warns that Brexit is a crisis but no deal “will be a catastrophe”. Good grief, even the Queen may flee for fear of us storming her palace.

    What a story!

    But remember, kids, the Brexit referendum was illegitimate because of a disputed number on the side of a bus.

  4. “Let us eat haggis and Scotch pies!”

    Quite right: infinitely healthier than pasta and pizza.

    And if all that chicken korma rubbish were replaced by lamb korma I’d be a happy bunny.

  5. it only takes a rumour to set off panic-buying

    You will be seeing plenty of rumours and lies from the Guardian and BBC.

  6. I was listening to Radio 4 on Friday, and was informed that we risked being flooded with cheap lamb. (The programme was part of a series on Brexit doom in the provinces, this one based in Cornwall.)

    Like many, I find lamb delicious but prices are steep. I’m sure this flooding won’t happen, but it’s a nice thought.

  7. It is hard these days to distinguish between Remainers and those loony religious cults predicting the end of the World.

  8. Where to start?
    Hardly anyone eats mutton. Sheep are kept for lambs and wool
    Just give the rams the snip if indeed nobody wants lamb.
    I’m sure there are people round the world who would see mutton as desirable- Venezuelans perhaps- so if we must slaughter them there is no need for landfill.
    As Tim says, should the shelves actually empty, fill them with Mutton.
    Bear in mind the sheep can be stored as they are, grazing their normal pasture.
    Etc.
    First I heard that the EU organised refuse collection.
    What I think is happening is a lot of people who have accepted that the EU is wonderful and important because “clever” people told them so (and they so wanted to be seen as clever) without actually examining it are now shit scared of being shown up as dupes.

  9. ‘hard Brexit on World Trade Organisation rules means a 60% tariff.’

    Rilly?

    Yeah it’s quite remarkable that when our Poly writes “Sheep will be slaughtered, unexportable with a 60% tariff.” the link she provides as reference is to another one of her articles where she makes that assertion with no reference to anything.

  10. in fairness given her former home in Tuscany the overall conclusion is not a surprise;

    ‘But the best Brexit is no Brexit.’

    For Polly Toynbee democracy is only true democracy when she agrees with the conclusion. She is the embodiment of the ‘Hampstead Thinker’ of the late Peter Simple’s lore.. Certainly not as evil as Murphy or Owen Jones but she deserves her place among the damned when the day of judgement comes.

  11. New Zealand manage to export >£3billion of lamb (2017-2018 figures).

    How do they manage that on WTO terms?

    She’s not even pretending to be a real journalist.

  12. How do they manage that on WTO terms?

    They don’t manage it on pure WTO terms. They have preferential arrangements, called Tariff Rate Quotas, with various countries, including the EU. In practice, the large majority of NZ lamb gets into the EU at 0%, rather than the formal 50%.

  13. I heard The Times journalist Jenni Russell on tv the other week complaining that if we leave the EU and leave the CAP then Britain would be flooded with cheap food. That’s a bug, that’s a feature you dozy munt

  14. The other day I was at the local dump chucking away some wood. I asked the geezer who was neatly packing the planks in a container what happens to the waste, does it get chipped ?

    “Goes to Belgium mate and is burnt there for energy. Then they sell us the electricity back. With any luck Brexit might let us burn it in this country.”

  15. JuliaM – why would they eat lamb when the sheep produce mutton?

    Its a nice enough meat.

    Now if we were unable to export lamb carcasses then yes the people would have to eat lamb. Those who eat meat probably won’t complain about that.

    I’m eyeing the local horses – horse steak….

  16. James Delingpole pulled up the numbers on UK lamb sales recently.
    64% is to ourselves, 3% to non-EU and 33% to the EU. This is by far the most extreme example of any product that could be affected by leaving hard, but it hasn’t stopped landowner loving bum boy Rory Stewart claiming that 92% of UK lamb trade is with the EU.
    Any problems with lamb are easily resolved by a bit of marketing, and anyone who has lamb three times a month having it four times, substituting it for Danish bacon or German salami or something.
    The least productive few % of landowners with sheep can go to the wall.
    There’s no point being more productive in our farming if we can’t take land out of farming. A concept a lot of people struggle with.

  17. Smaller market means reduced prices means some producers will go out of business? Seems a plausible potential outcome at least, but assuming it will is a bit of a stretch.

    I eat tons of lamb and most of it is British. Be interesting to see what the effect on prices here is.

  18. It is all lying remain shite.

    We need a “Punishment and Retaliation Commisson” to hunt down all the lying Remainiac pricks and make them suffer.

  19. What BiGiA said had me thinking.

    When living in Das Reich, I almost always bought my meat prepacked in a supermarket. Lamb was ocasionally available and was always from NZ. Lamb was available from Greek and Turkish butchers in abundance but I never asked where it came from.

    I do not eat British lamb, now I am back, I cannot afford it !

  20. I saw the drop in investment in car industry and did wonder if previous years were high as this is not operating costs and investment can be cyclical and it necessarily smooth annually.
    The other side of car investment is to what extent the new EU/Japan deal is going to impact Japanese investment cycles

  21. BniC,

    Car making investment in the UK isn’t cyclical. It’s over. Countries like Turkey, Serbia and Slovakia now have all the infrastructure and development to run car factories and are a lot cheaper than the UK. Renault and VW are shifting production east. If Toyota can make Corollas in Turkey (and Toyota’s quality control is excellent), no-one is going to make a new factory here and are going to move production.

    This is a last generation industry for the UK. Certainly not worth sacrificing other industries for.

  22. @ Bloke on M4
    Slovakia has had the infrastructure for more than quarter of a century. VW started producing cars (e.g. Passat) in Slovakia in the early 1990s having taken over BAZ some years before buying Skoda.
    The collapse in UK car investment is due to (i) the VW diesel scandal and knock-on effects for diesels in general and (ii) the slump in sales of luxury Jaguars and Range Rovers in China (which left-wing journalists blame on Brexit).
    What you say is true but not the main cause in the drop in investment.

  23. Couple of things. Investment in the car industry is typically driven by legislation. So when WLTP WAS being proposed 10 years ago manufacturing was gearing up to adapt. By investing in more test and development. This includes all the specialist suppliers or fuel and lubes. Who test to get the best product to market. The second point is its expensive making cars. So why make them here, when the added value is in R&D. The investment needed to upgrade your system to keep up runs into hundreds of millions. Your arent doing that willingly. A rolling road emission centre is built once in a lifetime. Lastly JLR was looking to move to Slovakia years before the brexit referendum and even then it was for the older models.

  24. “Investment in the car industry is typically driven by legislation.”

    This is largely true in the U.S.

    Governments have created environments unfriendly to business. Lefties have a static, even decadent, view of the world. Congress chokes businesses, they move elsewhere.

    But we also had the impact of UNIONS, who further made the US bad for business. Unions and Democrat rule – national and local – destroyed Detroit.

  25. As a contract installation specialist in the auto industry. We keep a close eye on the next bit of envimental/safety etc legislation to sell even more services.. check out AVL. Their whole business is based on keeping the industry ahead of the game.

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