Bataclan wasn’t caused by Mullahs Nor Their Cheerleaders, No Siree!

To prevent another Christchurch we must confront the right’s hate preachers
Jonathan Freedland

This attack was inspired by the populist politicians and their cheerleaders who claim the west is under threat from Islam

Hate preaching only works one way apparently.

48 comments on “Bataclan wasn’t caused by Mullahs Nor Their Cheerleaders, No Siree!

  1. Actually, he may be onto something. The whack job was (according to his manifesto) inspired by eco-concerns, and targeted recent immigrants because of their high birth rate.

    So all those teachers encouraging yesterday’s climate strike pupils must be put on a watchlist. QED.

  2. Churches around the world get shot up approximately once a week by Islamic nutters but I don’t recall this cunt writing too many anguished why-oh-why pieces about any of those incidents.

    It obviously goes without saying that what happened in Christchurch was disgusting and horrifying. But the way in which the left are trying to use it is disgusting as well. Their hypocrisy is staggering.

    And while nobody sensible denies that there are lunatic right-wing maniacs who are encouraging this sort of thing, they are numerically and in effect a world away from an organised religion with 1.5 billion adherents and a holy book which many believe is the literal word of God which contains instructions about exactly how to kill the infidel, and which is protected with enthusiasm by our own police and laws.

    The day the police arrest people for ripping up this Australian twat’s ‘manifesto’ with the alacrity with which they arrest people for disrespecting the muslim sky fairy’s ramblings is the day I will believe we live in a fair society.

  3. When presented with someone who insists that hatred is only on “the right”, I can never tell if that person is simply using a convenient falsehood to push their political goals, or is genuinely too stupid to know the problems with their definition & detection of hatred.

  4. “No tragedy is too severe for the Left not to exploit it.” – GC

    The Left doesn’t care about this. They are calculating how they can use it.

    The Left wishes it would happen MORE! They are FOR it, not against it.

  5. Interested: ’ But the way in which the left are trying to use it is disgusting as well. Their hypocrisy is staggering.’

    Yup! See the lionising of Egg Boy when they were howling like rabid jackals at someone (allegedly) egging Corbyn the other day.

    And yes, they are too bloody stupid to realise they are encouraging words you don’t like to be met with violence. Because they always expect to be the ones dishing it out, never taking it.

  6. @interested – no msm outrage at the 20 people massacred at a cathedral in the Philippines nor the 46 people killed in Nigeria by Islamists. Jonathan Freedland – one of the most vile smug gits on the Guardian .

  7. Muslims murder Western infidels – “Actually, bigots, this proves that we need to ban all criticism of Islam”

    Western infidel murders Muslims – “Actually, bigots, this proves that we need to ban all criticism of Islam”

    Hmm.

  8. They see Islamists as their allies in the war against western civilisation. The mistake they make is to believe that they will be able to defeat the Islamists once they’ve defeated us. I’ve seen Islamists up close – these fuckers believe it, and will die for it. The western left are so fucked if we ever give up.

  9. “The mistake they make is to believe that they will be able to defeat the Islamists once they’ve defeated…”

    The Iranian leftists made exactly the same mistake to get rid of the Shah. They were quickly dispatched, which was about the only good news from that situation.

    Of course, a lot of our lefties would quickly become Islamists. Craven little shits that they are.

  10. moqifen’s mention of the Philippines reminds me of a discussion i had with our visiting CEO the other day. He’s pretty centerist and was going on about all the ‘populism’ theae days and mentioned Duterte.

    I told him my wife voted for him and I would have too. He looked surprised. I told him how my wife has seen Seven of her friends murdered since she left school and none of the old politicians gave a shit. They live in gated communities and drive in armoured cars while stealing money from the people. After hearing the individual stories i told him… including a 22 year old girl getting shot in the head on her birthday… he said “John, I can’t blame them. id have votedfor him if i was them”.

    All this ‘populism’and anti Islam is a direct result of the government not giving a shit.

  11. Yes Jonathan, makes you think. I thought it odd that that the guy coming in with guns and combat gear was greeted with “hello brother”. There were reports of someone arrested in a suicide vest. Now nada.

  12. I suspect that if it had been 49 Jews murdered, Jonathan Freedland wouldn’t have demanded that Jeremy Corbyn and Labor to be called to account.

  13. Well, on that specific one, Freedland might well. Given his own background that is. And he has been sorta vocal about Labour anti-semitism too.

  14. “I wonder if he has mental health problems?”

    I listened to a program about school shooting in the USA. The first of the modern ones (they go all the way back to the founding, apparently) was in the ‘60s and the shooter left a note saying they should do an autopsy as he knew he was ill.

    Turned out he had a growth on his brain. Whether that caused the change is speculation, but it would be worth doing an MRI on the NZ shooter.

  15. I just leave this list of murders carried out in the name of Islam during the last thirty days. In case anyone’s interested.

    All though it should be pointed out that most of those murdered were in fact Muslims themselves, dead for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or for being the wrong type of mohammedan.

  16. @Interested March 16, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    Christchurch: the way in which the left and msm are trying to use it is disgusting as well. Their hypocrisy is staggering.

    +1

    C4 News wheeled out Mr “sex pest” Cox yesterday to lecture us

  17. @Bloke in Germany March 16, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    I wonder if he has mental health problems?

    Yesterday on OOL: Pcar “I’d put money on shooter being on legal and illegal psychotic drugs – an (h)assassin”

  18. “No tragedy is too severe for the Left not to exploit it.” – GC

    Quite correct. This will be used to remove freedoms us in NZ, but no change will be made to any of the underlying issues.

    This guy is very simply the logical extension of a world that has decided identity politics is the preferred lens to view the world and highlighting the division in society is the most successful road forward.

    Activists across the world are already using this for their political interest. The spectacle of some silly woman blaming Chelsea Clinton for this act shows just how deeply poisonous and profoundly stupid identity politics really is.

  19. Dennis the Peasant

    “I suspect that if it had been 49 Jews murdered, Jonathan Freedland wouldn’t have demanded that Jeremy Corbyn and Labor to be called to account.”

    Well, I think there is, sadly, plenty of empirical evidence that that is true. There would, however, have been plenty of warnings about the evil of Islamophobia and how Muslims must be protected from the actions of one individual.

  20. moqifen 2:24

    Oh…. if only we could send Friedland out to northern Nigeria or some remote Phillipine island for say a 12 month fact finding stay – or even KSA or Iran.

    I’d pay to see that.

  21. Just to add, given his stated aims, check in in a year and see just how well he has succeed in his goal. I think he would consider it a significantly positive result.

    My other observation is that despite the many demands made following his killings, not a soul has called for the death penalty.

    He has killed 50 people and will be back on the streets at some time in the future.

  22. And he has been sorta vocal about Labour antisemitism too.

    “Sorta vocal”? Not exactly a ringing endorsement there, Timmy.

    Forgive me for remaining doubtful.

  23. Google ‘New Zealand mosque attack vigil’, then ‘Philippines church attack vigil’ and you’ll find vastly different results.

  24. Steve –

    On anything other than the most superficial of levels, that doesn’t really mean much, now does it?

    Sorry, forgot who I was talking to. I shouldn’t have bothered asking.

  25. On anything other than the most superficial of levels, that doesn’t really mean much, now does it?

    Being Jewish doesn’t mean much?

    Sounds pretty anti-Semitic to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  26. I presume NZ will make it easier for people to have guns so that if thugs like these attack again, the people can defend themselves. The thugs will realize that attacking them is a losing proposition, and all this terrorist stuff will stop.

    Wait . . . what? Their going to take people’s guns away? That makes no sense; it will just invite more attacks.

    Terrorists attack the people; the people are punished.

  27. “Terrorists attack the people; the people are punished.”

    A terrorist attacks with the goals of reducing tolerance and trust, with the aim to spur divisions.

    The governments response is to remove freedoms from people, and introduce new laws to reduce tolerance of free speech and discourse.

    No one. Not a soul discusses punishing the perpetrator.

  28. Pcar, yes there are quite a few who have been desperate to change the freedom NZ’ers have to own firearms for years. This is a slam dunk for them.

    Also a slam dunk for government, who can talk about this and not field a single question about the deeper issues.

  29. David Moore: “My other observation is that despite the many demands made following his killings, not a soul has called for the death penalty.”

    Seen a few on Twitter. Agreed with them.

    Since he filmed it, it’s as open and shut a case as you’ll ever get. No wiggle room except insanity.

  30. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-17/new-zealand-police-demand-kiwi-farms-messsage-board-preserve-ip-addresses-and-email
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/nz-threatens-10-years-prison-possessing-mosque-shooting-video-web-hosts-warned
    https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/03/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-in-and-christchurch-attacks/
    The last item makes unsupported and imaginative statements but does ask some really good questions.
    My own impression is that the public is being massively misdirected by the political classes and stampeded into assenting to the censorship of every idea inconvenient to their narrative.

  31. Celebs and politicians have done lots of virtue signalling of the Christchurch attack but none about the Philippines or Nigeria attacks. That’s because the Christchurch attack was in their own country. An attack in another country doesn’t deserve a vigil. That’s why politicians and celebs in the UK are participated in vigils over the Christchurch attack. Follow the logic in that.

  32. How rotten to the core Western governments have become.

    Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower deported over 10 million illegal aliens from the United States. Today’s governments tolerate them, even encourage them. Contrary to the very purpose of government.

    Decadence will do us in.

  33. Most of us believe the solution is not shooting immigrants, but for government to do their damn jobs, and control who is in our countries.

    They aren’t doing it, and it pisses us off.

    So when someone in Christchurch shoots up a bunch of Muslims, we think, “Dammit government, if you did your damn job this wouldn’t be happening.”

    Government doesn’t want to do their damn job. They have reinvented themselves, and are now concerned with who can use which bathroom.

    The Christchurch Event does not turn government’s focus back to their core purpose, rather, it is used by them in their new purpose of gun control.

    Breitbart:

    ‘New Zealand’s government is responding to the Christchurch attacks by pledging to ban all semiautomatic rifles.’

    ‘[Prime Minister Jacinda] Ardern notes that the gunman was a licensed gun owner who used five firearms in his attack. Two of the five were semiautomatic rifles, two were shotguns, and the fifth was a lever-action long gun.’

    She is not moving to ban shotguns. So the agenda is to ban semiautomatic rifles, and these murders are an opportunity to get that passed.

    Mosques in Christchurch. The supreme irony.

  34. “She is not moving to ban shotguns. So the agenda is to ban semiautomatic rifles, and these murders are an opportunity to get that passed.”

    Yes. The goal was to ban semi-autos and has been for a long time. This was just the reason.

    That of course then ends the matter. No deeper searching into the underlying causes or possible prevention’s will occur, except perhaps a few shots directed at Facebook etal.

  35. More coincidental happenings:

    A Muslim preacher in New Zealand has denied suggestions an Australian man killed in Yemen was radicalised at a Christchurch mosque.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-04/preacher-denies-australian-killed-in-yemen-was-radicalised-in-nz/5500604

    The Israeli secret service Mossad has been accused of conducting an intelligence-gathering operation in New Zealand which was unearthed because of February’s Christchurch earthquake.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

  36. @ SadButMadLad
    Vigils in “western” countries (such as New Zealand which is 12,000 miles south-east) will – they hope – influence people and decrease the risk of another right-wing terrorist attack. There is *nothing* anyone in “the west” can muslim terrorists in Nigeria or the Philippines.

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