Whut?

The first person in Britain to be charged with a transgender hate crime has warned that the police and courts are being used to stifle legitimate debate on the controversial topic.

Miranda Yardley, who was born a man but underwent gender realignment to become a woman, went on trial earlier this month after being accused of harassment by a transgender activist.

The 51-year-old accountant, who still identifies as male, was prosecuted after Helen Islan, the mother of a transgender child, accused him of “outing” her son by posting a picture of him on Twitter.

Reality is now a hate crime? Here’s a pic of someone trans, that’s a hate crime?

37 comments on “Whut?

  1. @wat,

    What’s amazing these days is the pace of change on these things – in a few short years we’ve gone from trans activism hardly even being a *thing* at all, to a prosecution for “outing” someone as trans.

    I’m old enough now to remember the 90’s and 00’s gay* rights activists actively running an campaign to out homosexual public figures who preferred to stay in the closet. If you’d told me then that such things would result in prosecutions 20 years later I wouldn’t have believed you.

    *terminology of the day. So sue me.

  2. “…warned that the police and courts are being used to stifle legitimate debate…”

    The police are enthusiastic – since it’s less trouble than burglary or knife crime = and the CPS are far too in thrall to Common Purpose to be anything by willing handmaidens.

    But the courts themselves? Not so much.

    “District Judge John Woollard dismissed the case after a one-day hearing, saying there was simply no evidence.

    At one point during the hearing, Judge Woollard said: ‘Where is the evidence [of harassment] taking into account the need for free speech? You have to show a course of conduct and at the moment we have one tweet.

    Where is the evidence for Miranda Yardley outing Ms Islan’s son?’ Later he threw out the case and awarded costs to the defendant. “

  3. And yes, process is the punishment, and the taxpayer bears the cost not the morons themselves….but it’s nice to see the courts throwing such appalling overreach out.

    It’s what they are there for, after all.

  4. “Miranda Yardley, who was born a man but underwent gender realignment to become a woman, went on trial earlier this month after being accused of harassment by a transgender activist. The 51-year-old accountant, who still identifies as male”

    What the actual fuck?

    So the first person to be done for tranny hate crime is a tranny?

    And of course these people aren’t mental.

  5. Remember this the next time the CPS moans they are under-resourced, and that’s why they tried to fit up an innocent man for rape by withholding vital evidence.

    They are no longer prosecutors, they are political Inquisitors.

  6. “Miranda Yardley, who was born a man but underwent gender realignment to become a woman, went on trial earlier this month after being accused of harassment by a transgender activist. The 51-year-old accountant, who still identifies as male”

    I’m just enjoying that someone born as a male and who still identifies as a male, is “trans”. What a time to be alive.

  7. … was prosecuted after Helen Islan, the mother of a transgender child, accused him of “outing” her son by posting a picture of him on Twitter.

    It was established during the trial that the picture in question had originally been posted by Ms Islan herself. Yardley had merely echoed it.

  8. I was going to post, “Oops more NiV bait” but I’m not sure even the great NiV can sort out the ‘moral certainties’ in this one.

  9. I find I have to read these tranny stories about five times to get my head around just who is who…

    Or more accurately “who is what”.

  10. I wonder if they misssed this is potentially another first? Has a black person who identifies as russian ever been charged with saying the N word?

  11. ‘courts are being used to stifle legitimate debate on the controversial topic’

    Yardley thinks that his debate is legitimate. Revealing his belief that the government, ‘the courts,’ do have the authority to stifle debate. His argument is that his debate is legitimate, and should be allowed. Not that it is none of the government’s business. Yardley accepts fascism; he doesn’t like how it is being applied to ____ (insert pronoun* of the day).

    This is mirrored in Parliament and the the U.S. Congress. They do what they want; the debates are over whether something is a good idea or not, not whether the government has the authority to do it in the first place.

    E.g., is banning top loading washing machines a good idea? No Congress critter stands up and yells, “Washing machines are none of our business!”

    Debate has to be legitimate?

    ‘courts are being used to stifle debate’

    FIFY

  12. *I went looking for information on personal pronouns. Websites still show a very limited list. Are they committing hate crimes by not recognizing the expanded list? Mis-pronouning seems to be a crime in some places.

  13. “I’m just enjoying that someone born as a male and who still identifies as a male, is “trans”.”

    I ‘think’ he is a trans person who isn’t nuts, in that while he wants to pretend to be a woman, and even has had the chop, he realises this does not actually make him a woman, fundamentally speaking, so doesn’t do the ‘I am a woman and always have been, and I’ll get the police to arrest you if you say otherwise’ shtick that the nutters do.

  14. underwent gender realignment to become a woman

    Underwent genital surgery to more closely resemble a woman.

    FTFY

  15. The list of things one can mock the British about is a long one, but their idea of what constitutes effective law enforcement and policing has to be close to the top, if not at the top, of that list.

    When you have a police force that thinks effective policing should include restricting the sale of butter knives to the public, congratulations, you’ve become a third world nation.

  16. And evidently there isn’t a cop in the land who has enough personal pride to simply say, “Fuck this; this isn’t police work. I’m not doing it.”

  17. “When you have a police force that thinks effective policing should include restricting the sale of butter knives to the public, congratulations, you’ve become a third world nation.”

    In a third world nation you can usually buy AK47s and other assorted weapons. We’re becoming more like a nursery.

  18. @ DtP
    Two countries separated by an (allegedly) common language.
    A butter knife is not a kitchen knife.

  19. DtP, glass houses ?

    I haven’t noticed the Met investing in swat equipment to check for flora & fauna crimes.

    …the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service? All of these have their own SWAT units and are part of a worrying trend towards the militarization of federal agencies — not to mention local police forces.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/04/united-states-swat-john-fund/

  20. “And evidently there isn’t a cop in the land who has enough personal pride to simply say, “Fuck this; this isn’t police work. I’m not doing it.””

    I’m sure lots have, and have been replaced with suitably politically compliant and ‘diverse’ candidates. This is the trouble – sensible types are not aggressive militants, and when faced with that tend to decide to get out of the way. Its how the entire government sector becomes of one political view and the public are on an entirely different one. Its very obvious in the UK for sure, but I think the US is only a bit behind on the same road.

  21. Had things slit lengthways and tucked back in themselves to more closely resemble a woman.

    FTFY

    Things that make you go “gack”

  22. When you have a police force that thinks effective policing should include restricting the sale of butter knives to the public, congratulations, you’ve become a third world nation.

    True, but in the United States the coppers have a distressing habit of breaking into people’s homes and shooting their dogs.

    I’m not sure which is worse: the UK’s Sharia-compliant joke police or the USA’s hyperaggressive, militarised badge gang. But I do know that NWA were right.

  23. Steve, I have a friend who quit the Columbia police force after they busted into the WRONG HOUSE. They didn’t even offer to repair the door.

    But your characterization should be amended. It’s the big cities that have the Gestapo forces. Out in the country, things are more rational. My county’s sheriff’s deputies are good people.

  24. @Bloke in North Dorset March 22, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    UK is becoming more like a nursery.

    +1

    Excellent analogy

  25. Gamecock – I’ve heard that from American friends. Maybe it’s Bjorn’s Beer in action?

    Also I don’t understand how anyone could live in a big modern city – John Betjeman is more right than ever.

    It’s weird how aggressive American state and federal badge types are in general – for example, visiting the US as a foreigner just isn’t worth the abuse you get from the TSA and immigration goons after an unpleasantly long flight. Every other country I’ve been to, even security paranoid ones like Israel, treats you like a guest rather than an inmate. The Canadians practically give you free maple syrup and funny bacon at the border.

    British customs and immigration prefers the passive-aggressive approach, which probably says something about our country.

  26. JuliaM,
    That is not a cop. That is a Community Support Officer, employed by the same Police Force, sorry, Service, which turned down an excellent applicant because he was white, male, and heterosexual. If the Common Purpose recruiters for the Met had their way, all recruits would be like their erstwhile Commissioner, female, tiny, and a lesbian. Of course, they would need the token white male to have someone to blame when it all goes tits up (no pun intended).
    The only fault I can find with the filmer is that he appears to lose his temper and make spurious allegations. When in such a situation, keep calm, talk quietly, and answer every question with a question. This usually winds up the authority figure, who then becomes the aggressive one, thereby losing the high ground.
    The CSO does have a power to detain, but not arrest, anyone who has committed a crime. No one has yet been able to state the difference between being detained and being arrested, as both result in the prevention of free movement. However, a Police officer can use necessary force to effect an arrest while a CSO cannot, and any contact by a CEO can be deemed an assault.
    I would have loved to have been there, with popcorn and a deckchair.

  27. Penseivat, my local town cops have morphed into extended family.

    When I heard how many officers the town had, I was flabbergasted. So I asked an officer friend why they had so many, and he said, “WE NEED MORE!”

    WTF?

    He said that the vast majority of their calls were non-reportable (their classification). I didn’t ask for a detailed explanation, I just assumed that if anyone needs a little help, they call the cops.

    And the dispatcher sends them.

    Instead of telling them, “We’re fvcking cops. Get your own damn cat out of the tree. And that’s what the fire department does, anyway.”

    So the cost of the police to the town is extreme. I don’t know if the people paying for it know. I doubt it.

  28. @John77 “A butter knife is not a kitchen knife.”

    Perhaps you have never tried ordering one from Amazon: ‘no we cannot deliver to a collection locker, someone over 18 must sign for it.’
    and yesterday Nisbet’s in Bath seemed to think a pallet knife was a blade or maybe it was the potato peeler.

  29. @ djc
    Of course I have never tried ordering one from Amazon. I bought my butter knife (antler* and Sheffield Steel) before Amazon was created: middle-class Englishmen buy things to last [vide: Vimes’ theory of boots]
    *It’s outlasted the stag that cast the antler

  30. Penseivat: “That is not a cop. That is a Community Support Officer,..”

    Surely there are minimum standards even for those?

  31. Surely there are minimum standards even for those?

    Yes, they must pass a test to ensure that they use the correct pronouns at all times. And must not be heterosexual white males, of course.

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