Umm, well, you know what?

This doesn’t match any reasonable description of the world I see outside my window:

Her experience is the end result of a breathtakingly sexist assumption (perpetuated by media, advertising and our wider culture) that women exist primarily as potential partners for heterosexual men, that they owe men their time and attention without question, and that they are rude, arrogant or ungrateful if they dare to decline sexual attention.

I can think of varied Mullahs around and about who might think that way but us, today? It ain’t, is it?

25 comments on “Umm, well, you know what?

  1. As they get fatter, uglier and more strident women will have less and less reason to worry about men’s advances.

    Fat violent lezers is another story but that is their problem.

  2. Oh, quit your fucking whining.

    I’m not saying it’s a barrel of laughs being a woman, but I know young women who have a far, far better life than I did as a young man in so many ways.

    I know a recruitment consultant. Nice girl. Pretty. Did a good job on a project. We had a meeting one day, and she drove up in a brand new mini. Lives in a nice apartment in Bristol. Clothes definitely better than Next or Debenhams. She’s not affording that on a recruitment consultant’s salary. It’s because she has a successful boyfriend.

    Almost no man out there gets their lifestyle subsidised by fucking someone.

  3. Woman: “Give me free shit!”
    Man: “Do I get sex?”
    Woman: “Ugh, no. Creep!”
    Man: “Then why should I give you anything?”
    Woman:

    Entitlement has reached such an extent that they seem to have forgotten the fundamental reason why this exists. It might be coached more politely, but basically “If I ain’t fucking it, I ain’t paying for it or putting up with it’s shit”.

  4. The average modern woman leads a life of unprecedented and unsustainable privilege yet seems to think they’re just getting started. Boy, has Sharia got a surprise for them. Make the most of it while it lasts, girls.

  5. From about the age of twenty I found it effective to let the woman make the advances. If I fancied her I would respond. If not I’d pretend to be obtuse and not to have noticed. Unless she had simply thrown her arms around me and kissed me the not-noticing technique worked well, being (I think) a courteous and kind way of saying ‘no, thanks’.

    Being an embarrassable, self-conscious teenager was a different matter of course.

    Has the world changed all that much?

  6. ‘For certain groups in particular, including trans women, women of colour and sex workers, it is well documented that refusing unwanted advances can result in aggression, physical or sexual violence, or even murder.’

    Wasn’t there an article in the previous month bemoaning ‘Women of colour’ being ‘swiped left’ constantly on Tinder and talking of making that an investigable offence? Need to get the narrative confirmed!

    As Roue le Jour, ever excellent, points out – I cannot wait until the onset of Sharia law. In the famous words of Bachman Turner Overdive ‘you ain’t seen nothing yet’

  7. In terms of culture, there is definitely a lot of TV programming, advertising, cinemas etc that basically portrays women as there to partner a man. But also a lot that paints lazy stereotypes of men as slobby or clueless about the household routines or only interested in booze, sex and football.

  8. dearieme,

    “From about the age of twenty I found it effective to let the woman make the advances.”

    Yeah. Women tend not to be like “fancy a shag?”. They still want to be asked rather than the asker, but if they aren’t dropping some signals, leave alone.

  9. She’s called Jameela Jamil.
    We’re then very noticeably not told the ethnicity of the man who punched her.

    What are the odds that that snippet of info would have been left out if thumper had been white?

  10. It’s basically an attempt to blame all men for behaviour more typical of , shall we say, a certain group of men.

    Remember the accusations of ‘racism’ when that video of a woman getting cat-called in New York first appeared?

  11. “Guardian is a women’s magazine.”

    it’s an interesting observation and it’s occuring to me that most of the press is like this now. Men are off on podcasts, YouTube and blogs.

  12. Her experience is the end result of a breathtakingly sexist assumption (perpetuated by media, advertising and our wider culture) that women exist primarily as potential partners for heterosexual men, that they owe men their time and attention without question, and that they are rude, arrogant or ungrateful if they dare to decline sexual attention.

    Channeling her inner Amanduh Marcotte. How very Guardian.

  13. Some men and some women *are* rude, arrogant *and* ungrateful. quite a large percentage of such women reject sexual attention from any man they don’t fancy. Some women reject sexual attention from men they don’t fancy without being rude: it happened to me several times (and we remained friends).
    It is just possible that those women are viewed as rude because they actually are rude.

  14. “Almost no man out there gets their lifestyle subsidised by fucking someone.”

    What about all the men on EU payrolls?

  15. “. . . slobby or clueless about the household routines or only interested in booze, sex and football.”

    You make that sound as if it’s a problem.

  16. @JuliaM

    @Gamecock: ‘Guardian’ is a women’s magazine for women who hate men. And don’t really even like other women much.

    I came to the conclusion quite a few years ago that women don’t like each other very much: put up with; pretend to like; call their friends – but actually like them deep down … not so much!

  17. What do you expect? Women are their competition for all those premiership footballers and other “alpha males” they are chasing after. Billy beta? Not so much.

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