28 comments on “A role model

  1. OT right from the start but I’m reposting it cos I’m sick of Theo ducking the question:

    Will Farage have your vote Theo? Or will that shower of shite BlueLabour still get that?

    As for TR and CB –by what fuckwit BluLabour SJW standard dare you declare either of them “toxic”? Coming from you who have expressed forced repatriation to be your personal wish? The hypocrite standard? As a good Tory you will know all about that one. I’m tired of hearing your “rabble” crap coming from a pack of supine paymasters of a crop of traitors that put Burgess, Philby and co to shame.

    Dial 1922 and piss up yer true blue stooges leg Theo. Come back when your “rabble” have put Treason May out on her arse.

    PS Theo–Farage didn’t “open up another front naively” believing Brexit was a done deal–he buggered off totally and left everything in a mess which Batten is sorting out.

    No disrespect to Farage and the great good work he has done. I will be voting for Brexit Party in the Eurotrash vote. But they aren’t set up for the UK locals –so please everybody who wants Brexit send a message by voting UKIP.

    That includes you Theo. In no way can you claim that a vote for Torytrash is anything but a surrender. So again let’s hear it–will you vote for UKIP in the UK locals rather than vote for brazen Tory traitors? Or are you not only as bad but worse than any “My Dad voted Labour” type? Worse in that millions of them will support Brexit over Corbyn’s gang–As Jizz is to discover.

  2. I thought to myself – aspiring rapper or promising young footballer.

    I see it turned out to be a twist on the second one.

  3. There are indeed cultures where being stabbed makes you a role model. Didn’t quite realise any of them were English tho’

    It may not make you a role model in England, but it certainly makes you one of the many.

    If Mr. Moazami had the personal freedom to arm himself for his own personal protection he might be alive today. But I’m sure additional patrols by your jerk-off cops and additional parliamentary groups of your jerk-off politicians is a much better solution…

    It’s not like he was white or anything.

  4. Role model? Maybe.

    But what’s this knife crime problem? On this side of the pond, people commit crimes. Knife crime seems to be indirection, like “gun control.”

  5. If Mr. Moazami had the personal freedom to arm himself for his own personal protection he might be alive today.

    Nah. Having guns doesn’t stop black guys in the States shooting each other over rap feuds or someone dissing someone’s trainers or whatever stupid shit comes to mind – quite the opposite.

    Random murders are just part n parcel of diversity, innit.

  6. “If Mr. Moazami had the personal freedom to arm himself for his own personal protection he might be alive today.”

    No. He’d have been shot, or the other guy would have been shot.

    We skirt around the deaths of these lads because no-one wants their grieving families to suffer, but we should be more honest – nearly all of them are drug dealers and they’re getting knifed in a turf war or internal fight within a gang. “Aspiring footballer/DJ” is because no-one likes to say “drug dealer”.

  7. Mr Moazemi was stated to be a role model because he was mentoring other youngsters to avoid the gang culture. Maybe he was killed because some gangster objected to that?
    I had thought that Tim would remember a culture where innocent martyrs were role models.

  8. In no way does the headline suggest he was a role model because he was stabbed. You’re not even being pedantic, Tim, because there is nothing wrong with the headline. It could have said: Harborne stab victim, 18, was dog trainer, which wouldn’t suggest he was a dog trainer because he was stabbed.

  9. Mr Moazemi was stated to be a role model because he was mentoring other youngsters to avoid the gang culture

    I hate being cynical, but the guy who was shot in Edinburgh recently was also reportedly trying to keep the kids away from gangs. What are the odds?

    It’s amazing how many of these law-abiding reformed characters end up in violent conflicts.

  10. @ Steve
    I too am cynical about some of the “nil nisi bonum” comments we get from the BBC but all the comments on this one point in the same direction. If there are ruthless gang lords then the odds of getting murdered must be quite bad for anyone trying to steer young black guys away from drug-dealing gangs.
    No suggestion that Mr Moazemi had ever needed to reform.

  11. @ Ken
    He was 18, so probably still at school. Part-time job at local shop on Saturdays outside the football season.
    Amateur boxer – so quite likely that he thought that he didn’t need to carry another weapon and might have made some gang member look pathetic.

  12. John – Yarp. And the guy in Edinburgh was white, so it’s not just black guys who have incredibly bad luck with gang-related killings (though it is disproportionately). No idea about Mr Moazemi, maybe he was completely innocent.

    I’m just generally weary of media bullshit. We don’t have a “knife crime” problem, or an “acid attack” problem, or a “grooming” problem.

    We have a bouquet of demographic problems that were entirely predictable and predicted, yet successive governments have let hordes of the world’s least impressive tribesmen swarm here anyway, and now want to erect a totalitarian therapeutic surveillance state to rule over the mess they created with malice aforethought.

    At least we finally have diversity on Midsomer Murders tho. Gotta have that diversity! Just don’t ask why.

  13. ” Didn’t quite realise any of them were English tho’”

    They’re not.

    Import the third world, get the third world.

  14. “or the other guy would have been shot”

    I love a story with a happy ending.

    Assuming Moazami was a good guy. If not, then either bad guy getting shot would be good.

  15. I once prosecuted one of these community outreach types, keeping yoovs from gang culture so he was.

    He eventually pleaded guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence to an offence of GBH. I won’t describe the act, because it was sufficiently unusual to make identifying him (and, more importantly, me) potentially quite easy. Suffice to say it was bestial, craven, cowardly, horrifying and entirely a product of him losing his temper for no very good reason.

    His victim’s young child witnessed the attack. The victim himself must to this day be haunted by what nearly occurred. Mercifully, despite the viciousness of the attack, he fully recovered. Notwithstanding that, our hero was looking at what lawyers and politicians are pleased to call a good three years inside (ie about 12 to 15 months).

    And what did our hero actually get?

    A bender. Cos of his community outreach stuff.

    In short, I share the scepticism.

    Oh, and yeah, he was vibrant. Let me colour you ‘amazed’.

  16. At least we finally have diversity on Midsomer Murders tho. Gotta have that diversity! Just don’t ask why.

    Midsomer makes no pretence to be anything other than a fairy tale – no-one watching it could possibly believe in any connection to reality. But look at The Bay, a police procedural filmed in a specific location (Morecambe) that I happen to know well, complete with ‘county lines’ drug runners etc. and obviously attempting to make some portrayal of the real world.

    Yet the Lancashire cops seem to be almost 50:50 ethnic, with a significant proportion of Afro-Caribbean types who are pretty much unknown in that part of the world (and their representation within the force would be stretching it a bit, even if the series were set in Brixton). There are large S Asian populations nearby (e.g. Blackburn), but you don’t encounter many on the streets of Morecambe or Lancaster (outside the local curry houses).

  17. If Mr. Moazami had the personal freedom to arm himself for his own personal protection he might be alive today.

    Yeah, that’s working a fucking treat for the US.

    I prefer the Japanese version: strict gun control, zero enrichment.

    At least we finally have diversity on Midsomer Murders tho.

    With the number of killings on Midsomer Murders over the years, you have to bring in more efnic characters to explain the slaughter.

  18. @Steve April 26, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Edinburgh guy shot: wasn’t there also a £30,000/£300,000 drug deal debt involved too?

    We don’t have a “knife crime” problem, or an “acid attack” problem….

    …we have a no family/father problem

    I must admit, I’m glad I live where non-whites are uncommon and most blacks one sees are Army and their family.

  19. “Jordan Moazami: Harborne stab victim, 18, was ‘role model’”

    They all are, aren’t they? One day some piece of lowlife’s going to get offed, or even just a mundane ordinary member of the public and surprise us all. But until then, the martyrdom of the extraordinary will continue unabated.

  20. DtP:’If Mr. Moazami had the personal freedom to arm himself for his own personal protection he might be alive today.’

    Is that supposed to be one in the ‘win’ column? Hmmm. I’m not convinced.

    And at least if our thugs stick (mostly) to knives, then there’s little risk of collateral damage. Knives don’t richochet.

  21. Give us a clue ‘eh Gamecock? How’s all those guns working out for you?

    Are they keeping the murder rate down?
    Are they protecting you from the federal government?

  22. IIRC, Wolf’s Bonfire of the Vanities centred on the murder of a young black man of questionable character nevertheless portrayed as a Saint after his death.

    Its a kind of camouflage.

  23. You lot sound like you just dropped out of a Mississippi trailer park.

    European sophistication at its finest.

  24. To be honest, I don’t think allowing Britain’s black population to tool up is going to solve anything. Gun possession when you live in the sticks and the police are an hour away (even if they give a shit about you) is a reasonable idea; widespread gun possession in the inner city boroughs would be total carnage.

  25. ” You lot sound like you just dropped out of a Mississippi trailer park.”

    It’s called ‘noticing things’.

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