8 comments on “This realm, this England

  1. Tut, tut. Not ‘the Catholic one’ but the Roman Catholic one.

    Pukka catholics are members of the The Eastern Orthodox Church, officially the Orthodox Catholic Church. That is, they are members of the church that had been the medieval catholic church, from early days including the era of Catholic vs Arian Christianity, when the catholic church was presided over by its five patriarchs.

    The Bishop of Rome flounced out in 1054 because … well, because politics, of course.

    There are also Anglicans who call themselves catholics, which I assume is reasonable. After all, his church as Henry VIII preferred it was Unromaned Catholic, with the old monster being his own patriarch. You could tell it was catholic, it had what by then had become the key features of Roman Catholicism, bar papal supremacy: no married clergymen, no bible in the vernacular, a great appetite for burning Lutherans, a spot of cannibalism on Sundays, plus what looks to the layman remarkably like worship of idols and a neolithic fertility goddess.

    In the end it drifted away from that model, and became protestant under his son. Then it veered back a bit under his younger daughter.

    It’s hard to believe that any of these churches bear much resemblance to what Jesus might have thought suitable, whatever that might have been. Since he erroneously believed that the apocalypse was just around the corner I don’t suppose he devoted much attention to the matter.

  2. As tou put it Tim, blessed be the Holy Winning Lottery Ticket for Life: being English

    Funniest thing I’ve read all day.

  3. re: Church of England

    King Henry VIII of England, though breaking with the Pope, kept many essentials of Catholic doctrine, including transubstantiation. This was enshrined in the Six Articles of 1539, and the death penalty specifically prescribed for any who denied transubstantiation.

    A few years later:

    This was changed under Elizabeth I. In the 39 articles of 1563, the Church of England declared: “Transubstantiation (or the change of the substance of Bread and Wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by holy Writ; but is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to many superstitions” and made Mass illegal.

    From sacred to repugnant in such a short time? No wonder Christians are a confused lot.

  4. Agammamon,

    No, I have ten years in the study of comparative religion. That includes studying every branch of Christianity and their differences. Also including the apocrypha.

    Calvinists are my favourite Christians. Because they believe in divine determinism. Which makes them almost Muslims in that respect.

    Most Christians are deists. Deists are sentimental atheists. They whine about evil all the time which is why they need a theodicy. Not that it does them any good as they just go around in circles.

    According to the Bible, Christians are supposed to “glory in tribulations” (Romans 5:3). Ever see a Christian glory in tribulations? Me, neither. Just one time I’d like to see a Christian glory in tribulations. That would be something.

  5. Frankly, IMHO, religion is nothing more than primitive mankind’s attempts to communicate with the weather.

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