Umm, yes Tone

Politics is not an exact science. After the vote, there will be a ledger. On one side will be hard or no-deal Brexit with Farage and the Tory fellow travellers. On the other will be those who want an end to Brexit and those who believe that, after this degree of mess and on a decision of this magnitude, the final say should be with the people.

Isn’t that what the vote was? The people having their say?

17 comments on “Umm, yes Tone

  1. Britain’s greatest liar. I doubt we have ever produced a better one. Utterly shameless.

  2. It was the wrong say, Tim. Now, ‘The People’, must be given a second chance to give the right say, guided by Tone and his wise followers.

  3. Obviously Tony must be allowed to dictate our future.

    He’s in my top ten of people who should be in the first batch of traitors to be put up against a wall.

  4. Bliar–like Treason May–needs to be tried for treason (+war crime in his case) convicted, beaten to a pulp–in lieu of the old “guts wound on a hoop in front of them” capers which are just silly–and publicly hanged.

  5. I have come round to supporting a second referendum.

    The question of whether we ought to leave the EU has already been asked and answered, so there is no reason to ask it again.

    Thus the referendum question is simply: deal or no deal?

  6. I and millions like me are treating the EU vote *as* the second referendum. If the LDs plus Greens & Nats get over 50%, then I will accept that the country wants Revoke Right Now, if BXP+UKIP get over 50% I will accept that the country wants Brexit Right Now. I hope it will be as clear-cut as that, Leave Right Now is currently on 38%, Revoke Right Now is currently on 23%, BRINO is on 11% and Standing In The Middle Looking Silly is on 21%.

  7. He’s in my top ten of people who should be in the first batch of traitors to be put up against a wall.

    +1
    But at least Bliar is only heard from occasionally these days, whereas his mini-me, Campbell, is rarely off the Beeb. I see he’s being featured in a new series on mental ‘issues’ talking about his struggle with depression. That’s not depression, Alastair, it’s the tiny remnant of your conscience trying to make itself heard.

    If my deliberate lies had significantly contributed to the deaths of several hundred thousand people, I hope I would have sufficient integrity to do the decent thing. Time for a silver tray bearing a glass of whisky and a revolver.

  8. The toppling of Theresa: Day 38

    “Nigel Farage must be a very happy man. He’s steaming away at the polls – as the Telegraph’s exclusive this morning blared out:

    ‘Brexit Party beats Tories in general election poll and would win 49 seats in Commons’.

    The delightful Guy Verhofstadt* has even come over to give him a helping hand and no doubt a further boost, bless him. As if he needed it with Mrs May so busy insulting her own MPs, councillors and constituency party chairmen into voting for the Brexit Party, if not into switching camps. That’s all on top of the two free party political broadcasts the BBC inadvertently gave the Brexit Party last week, described by Tim Bradshaw in TCW today. Not so much ‘Brexit Behind Closed Doors’ as a window into a ‘Despicable Me’ EU.

    Sherelle Jacobs (Telegraph) concludes that they are paralysed by two other terrible flaws: they are squeamish about conflict, they feel ‘vain discomfort’ at being labelled ‘extreme’ (as by the Nick Cohens of this world) and some ‘are petrified that being bullish will damage their leadership bids’.

    Bullish is exactly what they need to be – before there are more leadership contenders than party members to woo.”

    * As the Lib Dems grasp at straws, why IS the wily Brussels Eurocrat Guy Verhofstadt telling us who to vote for?

  9. Foreigners telling us how to vote two years ago: bad.
    Foreigners telling us how to vote this year: good, because reasons.
    Brit newspapers telling USAians how to vote also good, beause reasons

  10. I’m ok with another vote if Blair is ok with a vote on if he should face charges or not.

  11. “Sherelle Jacobs (Telegraph) concludes that they are paralysed by two other terrible flaws: they are squeamish about conflict, they feel ‘vain discomfort’ at being labelled ‘extreme’ (as by the Nick Cohens of this world) and some ‘are petrified that being bullish will damage their leadership bids’.”

    The really big flaw is caring what the Nick Cohens think of them.

    It doesn’t matter what your enterprise is. A political party, a business, a charity. Figure out who will or might support what you do and fuck everyone else. You have limited resources of money, priorities or energy. Apply them where they have the greatest effect.

    The Conservative Party have left me saying “so what?” to the threat of Corbyn taking over. They spunk billions on wanky foreign aid projects, HS2, they interfere on porn and fast food, arrest people for stupid twitter jokes, complain about business constantly, have done nothing to stop the war on men, have done nothing to roll back the state. I’m not saying Jezza isn’t worse, but it’s not like they’re so much better.

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