21 comments on “That explains politics then

  1. Is it that because you are an MP you have mental health problems or because you have mental health problems you think you should be an MP?

  2. “Being an MP can be quite a lonely occupation. The work itself is inherently stressful. MPs are potentially at greater risk of developing mental health problems because of the nature of their work and because they work in a high-stress environment where there are many brickbats and not many bouquets,” said Poulter, who was a health minister from 2012-15 in the coalition government.”

    Well there’s a simple solution to that. Fewer MPs and smaller government.

  3. said Poulter, who was a health minister from 2012-15 in the coalition government.”

    Who doesn’t claim that their job is more stressful than anyone else’s? He can take my job and I’ll wave pieces of paper while I jeer and get pissed at a subsidized bar.

  4. “Who doesn’t claim that their job is more stressful than anyone else’s? ”
    Anyone find their job stressful, likely isn’t up to doing it. Operating beyond the limits of their capabilities & need to find something else before they drop someone else in the shit.

  5. Being married to an ICU nurse always gave me a good perspective on work, at least when I came home nobody had died.
    MPs maybe a shitty job, but it pays well and has lots of benefits

  6. BiS, You are right. My experience of covering for a colleague who was on maternity leave, so that essentially I was doing my job and hers, was very stressful. I never found mine alone to be other than a sinecure. Oddly enough, I blamed her for it for a number of years, when really it was my employer’s fault.

    BniC, then you haven’t had some of the jobs I’ve had. Colleague buried in a pit? Colleague hit by a train? Colleague fell down a pile shaft? Colleague killed in a landslide incident? People killed in a tower block by gas explosion or cladding fire? Then you aren’t a civil engineer.

    Person decapitated when they looked out of a train window? Person killed at a level crossing? Person fell or jumped in front of a train? So not in the railway industry, either.

    Or road transportation.

    And if you are in aviation or automotive, you know your product will kill people who pay to use it. Blimey, if you sell or make washing machines, toasters, electric sockets, electric saws – the list is endless.

    The point is not that no-one died (any jobs at your place?) but that you didn’t have a hand in killing them – unless that is your job, in which case no-one dying is a failure!

    (PS. You obviously don’t work for the NHS, either)

  7. @ bis
    A lot of places add more work to the good operatives until two items beyond the point where adding another job means that total value added declines. So many good operatives find their workload stressful because it is just beyond their optimum level

  8. The “profession” certainly seems to attract more than it’s fair share of sociopaths.

  9. @john 77
    Quite so. The sensible solution to this problem is to work for yourself. When I feel I have too much to do, I start turning down assignments (and/or increase my daily rate).

  10. I know there’s plenty of other examples, just that one was specific to me. I’ve worked in aviation, mining, industrial food production, transportation (light rail), CNC machining shops so well aware of dangers and risks in workplaces for staff and public though deaths aren’t everyday occurrences thankfully. I’ve even worked for the local equivalent of health and safety and growing up one side of the family were all miners or colliery workers of some sort.
    Still the point is the job of an MP is much less stressful than many of the jobs out there and better paid so maybe they should get some perspective before complaining.

  11. @ Chris Miller
    Not a problem I’ve had recently, but I always made a rule (when working for myself) that any new contract was conditional on not prejudicing work I had previously accepted (which is almost equivalent to your idea except it meant some of them turned me down).
    It is definitely better to have the choice: in my last year in Pensions Department I failed my Actuarial exams, then Personnel moved me and replaced me with *three* people.

  12. Note that all of this comes from 146 questionnaires. Not one MP was actually examined by a qualified mental health professional.

    So the findings are, in the truest sense possible, complete bullshit… Bullshit masquerading as “social science”.

    Come to think of it, the social sciences are bullshit. Period. So I guess it all makes sense.

  13. @BniC July 2, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    MPs maybe a shitty job, but it pays well and has lots of benefits

    +1

    MPs pay is effectively pocket money as everything they want/need is claimed as an expense

  14. MPs are people who seek external validation from voters, the media and from colleagues in the political realm. Unsurprisingly, many are egotistic, narcissistic and status-seeking. With vaulting ambition, many desire the power and status of high office, even though they lack any ability. And, so often, having achieved their ambition, they have no idea what to do with the the power they have won….

  15. Since all (bar a handful) of MP’s voted for the ludicrous Climate Change Act, I’d say it’s more than three in four with mental health problems…

  16. Remember when Gordon Brown was Chancellor? He was claiming for a Sky subscription, on expenses, so his children could watch cartoons! The people who make the laws should be forced to live by them. I’ve despised him ever since. Previously I just thought he was a stereotype of a thick, chippy Jock. The sort of person who envies Scousers

  17. What you have to remember is that MPs didn’t do anything wrong with the expenses affair. They claimed what was allowable under the rules. This meant MPs hadn’t actually done anything wrong.

    This is completely different from companies or individuals who claim tax deductions allowable under the rules. Theses companies behaved appallingly and immorally and didn’t think of their duty to wider society and so had done terribly wrong things.

  18. Given that ‘poor mental health’ is a definition so widely drawn these days I suspect it applies to the entire population

    Feeling sad? A bit stressed? Coffee too hot?

  19. Seems like they should interfere in everyone else’s life less and quit their cushy job if they can’t hack it…

    Term limits seems like an obvious solution. No more than two general elections or ten years……

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