Interesting meaning of the word “responsible”

We are in the middle of the most intense political crisis for a generation. And in a few days Boris Johnson could well be handed the keys to No 10. That will make things worse, not better.

Any responsible future prime minister would have spent the past few weeks seeking to find a consensus in parliament for a way forward, building bridges with our European allies rather than Donald Trump, and making the case for unity not division across the country.

“Responsible” here meaning “does what I want”.

29 comments on “Interesting meaning of the word “responsible”

  1. Well, obviously. There’s plenty wrong with the British state, but eventually the people will win out, whatever the establishment thinks. When we leave the EU, the last way for them to fix the laws the way they want them will have gone.

    Their screams of frustration will keep me smiling for years 🙂

  2. “and making the case for unity not division across the country.”

    They spent the past 3 years calling Leavers thick, racist bigots. Before that they’d spent at least 10 years shouting down anyone who merely questioned immigration policy as racist and those who wanted to leave the EU swivel eyed loons.

    Now they want unity, by which they mean they want us to compromise and accept their way of doing things.

    It doesn’t really matter what Boris does, whatever deal he negotiates will be a “Tory” or “Boris” deal and they’ll be against it out of spite and because a “deal” means all things to all men and it would never satisfy them anyway.

  3. Johnson should have spent the past few weeks seeking to find a consensus in parliament for a way forward?

    Ludicrous suggestion as evinced by May’s failed premiership. The notion that Steve Baker and Dominic Grieve could ever reach a consensus is not pie in the sky, it’s Greggs’ moon launch, and they are ostensibly in the same party.

    Voter attitudes seem to have hardened and even the Malthouse Compromise will no longer wash with the electorate.

  4. I presume he’s another lying c**t who was elected on a pledge to honour the result of the referendum. Honour not being a word normally belonging in the same sentence as Member of Parliament, apart from the chamber & periodic gongfests.

  5. If Starmer were the least bit “responsible” he’d be doing his utmost to prevent Corbyn and McDonnell from reaching power.

    He isn’t.

  6. Of course Starmer is responsible. The CPS was politicized under his regime, and he was responsible.

  7. Yes, any responsible future prime minister, and any true Scotsmen, would have.

    He says ‘responsible’ and ‘unity’ because YOU care. He doesn’t.

    Common Lefty practice, using your mores against you. They convinced you that “racism” is bad. Then, no matter what happens, they accuse you of racism. It is virtually their last tool in the U.S.

    “Go back where you came from and help there” is racism. Journalists say so.

  8. Ee should not forget that Starmer is the man who decided not to prosecute Blair& Levy for selling Honours.

  9. We’re in a crisis because a large proportion of MPs want to ignore the result of a referendum they called and the promises they made, as well as defaulting on the manifestos that, with plenty of time for research and consideration, they put forward in order to obtain office.
    Rectify that and the crisis goes away.
    Fail to and it won’t , whatever happens about Brexit.

  10. Rupert, BiND, TMB, BiS, Rhoda – Yarp and well said

    Nautical Nick – I reckon he is though.

    Continuity Blair has now browbeaten Corbyn into effectively abandoning Brexit against his better judgement, while continuing to coordinate with the media on the weaponised anti-Semitism moral panic in an attempt to sabotage his chances of becoming PM.

    The plan, since Jez was elected leader of the Labour Party in an unfortunate outbreak of democracy, has been to wind the clock back to the cosy days when it didn’t matter who you voted for, because what the Kippers called LibLabCon was effectively a uniparty.

    It’s not even “about” Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, or any of the other personalities involved, just as the strange new fear of a blond planet isn’t “about” Boris. It’s about confining the great British public in a pseudodemocratic political hedge maze that the Red Chinese must be secretly impressed by.

    Member – Brexit is The Great Unmasking. We’ve discovered that everything about the Prime Minister is fake, even her pretense (which the media willingly collaborated in) of going to church on Sunday. The superficial dramas enacted for the benefit of us proles are like the shadows in Plato’s cave, except retardeder.

  11. Now they want unity, by which they mean they want us to compromise and accept their way of doing things.

    Not even compromise. They want us to surrender, even though they lost. There is no possibility of compromise with such people, even if we wanted to.

  12. Off the wall.
    There has been much discussion as to the power the PM can exercise without reference to Parliament. Wrt Brexit it seems that the PM cannot enact the express will of Parliament as laid out in various acts without first getting an agreement with the EU that is also acceptable to Parliament.
    I note however that a PM can declare war without reference to Parliament – 1939 for example. So a simple declaration of war, in order to force the EU to agree to a deal acceptable to Parliament, and thus to enact the express will of Parliament, would seem to be the way out.
    Given the current state of the German military it should be a pushover.

  13. Giving the promised referendum on Lisbon all those years ago would have been ‘responsible’.

  14. Kier Starmer is a central casting Blairite and if he hadn’t been succeeded by the truly woeful Alison Saunders would have gone down as one of the more useless DPPs. Yet another lawyer and failed bureaucrat with no obvious understanding of anything outside of the Ham&High bubble.
    As previously noted, there is a clear orchestrated campaign now by what Steve refers to as UKIPs Lib/Lab/Con party, but is basically the Blairites who never went away and have been hiding in plain sight. Like some collective hermit crab, they are abandoning the Blu Labour shell they have been occupying with Cameron and May and are seeking to oust Corbyn from their previous Labour identity with a Tom Watson ‘led’ coup. Then to call S vote of no confidence, relying on their chums in the BBC, Times, Financial Times Guardian etc to help them win a majority at which point they say ‘ we are the party of Remain so we have just secured a mandate to abandon Brexit.’

  15. “So a simple declaration of war, in order to force the EU to agree to a deal acceptable to Parliament, and thus to enact the express will of Parliament, would seem to be the way out.”

    The EU will claim, “You can’t declare war on us; we’re not a country!”

    You over complicate it, Pat.

    Just get out. You can then decide what to ignore from them, and what you will discuss with them.

  16. If Boris crashes the company car and brings the whole edifice down with him I’ll go to my grave chuckling. What’s life if it ain’t an adventure.

  17. Can anyone explain to me how parliament can stop the EU chucking us out? Surely all Boris has to do is sit at his desk and play solitaire until the 31st.

    The only way I can see is if the EU unilaterally extends the deadline and then parliament refuses to decline to accept it.

  18. Can anyone explain to me how parliament can stop the EU chucking us out? Surely all Boris has to do is sit at his desk and play solitaire until the 31st.

    Should the EU decide not to offer the UK an extension on BRExit negotiations then there is nothing that the UK can do about that. For all their Machiavellian manoeuvring, in that respect they would be following the rules laid down in Article 50.

    They WONT because they need the UK’s financial contribution and expertise in various areas. They still hope that the UK will somehow pull of a miracle and repudiate BRExit. I can’t see that happening though.

    Surely all Boris has to do is sit at his desk and play solitaire until the 31st.
    Not really. At some point he will be instructed by Parliament to go to the EU and request an extension. Boris will have to finesse that such that he technically does comply with the will of parliament, but simultaneously the EU recognises that he is just playing the game.

    At some point before October 31st the EU will realise that Boris has no intention of implementing the wretched capitulation treaty that May has been touting. Since renegotiation is impossible for them, only vague “political reassurances”, even the EU will recognize that it’s time to call it a day. BRExit is causing them problems as well because it is a distraction from the business of establishing a Federal superstate.

    Can’t really see the UK being in the EU on November 1st.

  19. I have a modest proposal to break the deadlock in Parliament: Hang a Remainiac MP at Tyburn every week until we leave the EU.
    Merely to encourage the others, naturally……..

  20. “Can’t really see the UK being in the EU on November 1st.”

    But I couldn’t see you still being in this year. Once a delay is fabricated, executed, and accepted by the people, all future delays are enabled.

    Up til then, all is intrigue. Nothing will change. Boris – if he can – should take you out Day 1.

    “We voted out. We’re out. Any questions?”

  21. @Pat July 21, 2019 at 11:17 am

    The estabilshment are busy making sure we can not win a war or even protect a merchant ship from a few speed-boats.

    One would have thought RN & USN would have started WWII style convoys months ago

    As for Starmer – establishment and msm have anointed him as next Labour leader.

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    @John Galt

    Brexit Party (more MEPs than any other EU Party) are ramping up their trouble making to encourage EU to expel UK.

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    @Jonathan

    +1

  22. “Any responsible future prime minister would have spent the past few weeks seeking to find a consensus in parliament for a way forward, building bridges with our European allies . . . ”

    In other words, continuing to do all the things you’re kicking the current Prime Minister out of office for doing.

  23. Brexit Party (more MEPs than any other EU Party) are ramping up their trouble making to encourage EU to expel UK.

    Good luck to the Brexit Party in their efforts.

  24. Steve said:
    “everything about the Prime Minister is fake, even her pretense (which the media willingly collaborated in) of going to church on Sunday”.

    I missed that, and Google isn’t helping; anyone got a link please?

  25. Imagine the howls of anger and claims of arrogance had Boris started acting like PM before the vote result was announced, the low key approach he’s taken seems more sensible and hopefully shows he can take advice.
    Compared with the bitter whining from May, Hammond and Gayle etc he already seems more ministerial and statesman like, though that’s a low bar

  26. A beyond limbo low bar, any air gap twixt the bar and floor is indiscernible to the naked eye.

  27. On the subject of responsible Prime Ministers; have all the tickets for the hanging, drawing & quartering of May gone yet?

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