Something I don’t know

But if Brexit does mean Brexit, we are determined that the negotiated withdrawal agreement, including the backstop, which safeguards the Good Friday agreement, cannot be discarded as Johnson has requested.

What is it that makes the EU responsible for safeguarding the Good Friday Agreement?

Isn’t it actually an agreement between the two sovereign nations, Eire and the UK?

28 comments on “Something I don’t know

  1. If that threat is that the IRA will kick off again aren’t we pandering to terrorists if we give in to all this shit on the backstop?

  2. The usual project fear nonsense. Lord Trimble, co author of the GFA has already stated Brexit has no effect on it.
    What’s amusing is seeing Sinn Fein bleating about a border poll – which of course they do at every opportunity anyway. I reckon they are shit-scared of Brexit being a success, which will further separate NI and ROI and further reduce any desire from the majority for a united Ireland.

  3. This is Guy Verhofstadt writing in the guardian sedulously talking up the remain position and so hardly surprising.

    Reports from the Irish central bank and the utterances of Irish TDs suggest an altogether less sanguine point of view gaining ground.

    It’s beginning to dawn on our friends to the west that they have allowed themselves to be used and that the EU is preparing to discard them like an old glove.

  4. @TMB.

    Sane heads here realised from the get-go that we were being played for patsies. Unfortunately our politicians are, like most politicians, cnuts of the highest order.

  5. we are determined that the negotiated withdrawal agreement, including the backstop, which safeguards the Good Friday agreement, cannot be discarded

    In that case, as per your rules, no deal it is.

    You nonce-faced cunt.

  6. I’m pretty much at the boycott Ireland level of things. If we destroy Kerrygold and Guinness, maybe we can get Varadkar to shit himself and remember who buys all their stuff.

    Not like I can’t get butter elsewhere.

  7. Probably because the government of Paddyland has derogated all it’s functions to Brussels so they can spend more time down the pub. So there’s no-one actually at home on that side to discuss it with.

  8. “I’m pretty much at the boycott Ireland level of things.”

    We’ve been there for years. We’ve just added France though I think my wife might cheat with Brie – anyone know a good British one? And we’ve added Germany – we shall miss those delicious rieslings but it’s a noble sacrifice.

    There’s no point boycotting powerless countries like Portugal.

  9. “I think my wife might cheat with Brie – anyone know a good British one?”

    In my local supermarket, Premium range Brie is from Somerset, while the Value stuff is from France.

    I don’t know what odds you’d have got on that 20 years ago.

  10. @Jimmers,

    The Paddies had a United Ireland until 1922, when some sort of refuge was needed for those who didn’t particularly want their offspring sodomised by priests. I look forward to the day when Irish Travellers (aka Pikeys) feck off back to their homeland.

  11. Brie – anyone know a good British one?

    An excellent Cornish one is St Endellion, named after David Cameron’s daughter. (Or was it the other way round … ?)

  12. @dearieme

    I second the statement about cornish brie and highly recommended other cornish cheeses… Don’t know the names of any as I just get them from farmers markets so not sure what’s available outside cornwall but they are very nice…

  13. I loved the likes of Aldi and Lidl when they first came to Ireland.
    They gave a real choice of cheap as chips continental food and delicacies that weren’t available in the other supermarkets.

    Over time they have given over to soucing most of their produce from Ireland. Buy Irish is a very real thing over there.

    I’m pretty much of the same opinion as BonM4 now and appreciate the efforts of Wetherspoons and the like of soucing UK goods and products.

    Reasonable prices, high quality and we get to show two fingers to all the naysayers.

    I also don’t understand why the Tories never realised that the backstop was an opportunity to drive a wedge between Europe and the Irish. The Irish economy is hugely dependent on what we do here in Britain.

    Why oiks like Veradkar were never taken to one side and had the facts of life explained to him is beyond me…

  14. The bit in the Brexit documentary where they went to Ireland and came back and pontificated how much the EU had achieved including the current peace agreement showed how delusional they were and how desperate the Irish were to suck up to them.
    Going to be interesting to see where the French tech giant taxes spat, how long before the French just decide to close the Dutch/Irish loopholes instead. Though given the rumblings about standardising taxation maybe nearer than the Irish think.

  15. I’m pretty much at the boycott Ireland level of things.

    I’ve not knowingly bought anything French for over 30 years.

    (Mid-80s lorryloads of livestock being hijacked and burnt by French farmers, if you care about the reason.)

  16. It being Yorkshire Day today we had a celebration with several bottles of Yorkshire wine, which was very acceptable and surprisingly non-headache-making.

  17. @Bloke in Wales
    Yes I did find the entire sheep farmer panic amusing given the long and fractious relationship welsh lamb producers have had with the French in particular
    ignoring EU rules when it suited them

  18. I don’t like the frogs anymore than the next rational human being, but I’ll be buggered if I’m going to forego wines from St Emilion and Pauillac.

  19. @DocBud. If the “ton” of Regency England could keep drinking French brandy through the Napoleonic wars. I’m quite sure there’s no reason to give up French wine during the present local difficulty. I’m a black wine of Cahors man myself.

  20. DocBud,

    If you’re only drinking mid-range wines there’s better value elsewhere, like USA and Chile. I’ve ditched Burgundy because New Zealand is better value.

  21. “but I’ll be buggered if I’m going to forego wines from … Pauillac”

    BoM4

    “If you’re only drinking mid-range wines”

    My guess: O/T from DocBud’s perspective!

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