Err, yes love

“We have to face the oil and coal industry, the CO2-emitting industry, Wall Street, Bolsonaro, Donald Trump,” she said to cheers from the crowd. “We can’t and won’t win by staying home.”

Right:

“It’s super cool that she came all this way,” said Selma White, 14, a regular at Copenhagen’s Fridays for Future protests. “It’s really inspiring.”

Ocasio-Cortez arrived in Copenhagen on Wednesday morning

The emissions from flying from DC to Copenhagen are what?

Then of course there’s this drivel:

Instead, she said, the world needed to adopt “a cooperative, collaborative” system, “whose economy … benefits the middle and lower classes and marginalised people”.

What do you think a market economy is if it ain’t cooperation?

14 comments on “Err, yes love

  1. “She got a rockstar welcome in that audience,” Nicholas Reece, a city councillor from Melbourne, Australia, said.

    The so-called World Mayors Summit only attracts local councillors. I wonder if the taxpayers of Melbourne paid for his little jolly.

  2. ‘Instead, she said, the world needed to adopt “a cooperative, collaborative” system, “whose economy … benefits the middle and lower classes and marginalised people”.’

    Without fossil fuels without which there will be no economy.

  3. None of all this (the protesters demands) are ever going to happen. Look what happens politically when government tries to take money away from people via cuts in welfare, or spending on certain services they provide. Look how much hot air has been expended about government spending ‘austerity’, which of course isn’t anything near any definition of true austerity. Look how much political guff is thrown out about the bare faced lie that people are worse off than they’ve ever been etc etc, when the truth is that people are richer than they’ve ever been.

    Then try to imagine the reaction when some real austerity was imposed in the name ‘climate change’. Cars costing so much that only the wealthy could afford them, and certainly only one per family. Rationing of food and energy. The closing down of entire industries because people can’t afford to use them any more, or travel to use them – tourism, restaurants, sports,. The standard of living dropping back to something akin to the 1970s. The masses won’t put up with it. There would be riots. Especially when people cotton on that other countries are carrying on as before.

    The whole idea is a fantasy of middle class revolutionaries. If it ever got imposed they’d be the ones who hated it the most, because we can see from their lifestyles now they aren’t walking the walk. Its all just talk. They’ve talked themselves into a corner that they can’t get out of.

    The government need to start giving some of them what they want – as I said before, all these kids being taught nonsense by teacher Trots need to be shown the reality. Turn the heating down in every school, and university. Reduce the food available at the canteen, ban anything else from being brought in, all the name of climate change of course. Its what they want isn’t it, saving the planet via lower emissions? So give them some of it and see how they like it. The same sort of thing should be implemented throughout the State sector. No car parking for State employees, they must all use public transport to get to work. Cutting carbon emissions see, who can argue against it?

    Given the protesters what they want personally, it’ll die a death in weeks.

  4. Instead, she said, the world needed to adopt “a cooperative, collaborative” system, “whose economy … benefits the middle and lower classes and marginalised people”.’

    This is 99.9% of the current population, so how will any such economy benefit the entire current population while using vastly less energy?

  5. @Jim…

    The standard of living dropping back to something akin to the 1970s.

    If ER’s schemes were to be implemented in anything near full, it would be worse than the 1920s/30s – at the height of the depression. Far worse.

  6. “The masses won’t put up with it.”

    The Left’s rhetoric is all about getting us to accept the unacceptable. They have had remarkable success.

  7. “The Left’s rhetoric is all about getting us to accept the unacceptable. They have had remarkable success.”

    Have they? The whole message of Brexit and Trump is you can push electorates so far, but eventually they push back. And the sort of stuff ER are pushing will affect EVERYONE, not just some, in the way globalisation and mass immigration do. Indeed lots of people gain from the latter, but no-one will gain from turning the economic clock back 50-70 years. None of the people pushing it even seem to realise what it would mean for their own lives. They certainly aren’t changing their lives voluntarily to live simpler less energy consuming lives are they? So how are they going to feel when its imposed on them too? After all its not like campaigning for higher taxes on ‘the rich’, to be spent on you, that makes perfect sense. Everyone is going to have to suffer the reversal of the economic motor, no one can escape, even those proposing it.

    Hence my point – governments need to invent ways of imposing this stuff in very minor but concrete ways , targeted at the very people demanding it. Once they have to suffer even 10% of what they are demanding, 90% of them will change their tune pretty rapidly.

  8. “Have they?”

    Why yes! The United States is more fascist the Hitler’s Germany. It has 615 agencies deciding how people should live. Look around you, man!

    Do no discount the Left’s ability to accomplish the unacceptable.

    For example,

    http://www.timworstall.com/2019/10/12/the-lack-of-self-awareness-is-astonishing/

    A major U.S. political party, which currently controls Congress, is pushing for nationalized healthcare. And you don’t think they can screw over the energy industry? Energy Department, EPA, OSHA, etc, are already all over them.

  9. “Why yes! The United States is more fascist the Hitler’s Germany. It has 615 agencies deciding how people should live. Look around you, man!”

    Don’t tell me, tell Dennis of this parish. He seems to be under the illusion that America is still the Land of the Free.

    I’m not saying that the Left haven’t managed to get their sticky hands on a lot of the economy. But they’ve done so in a way that doesn’t directly impact Joe Public too obviously. This latest brain malfunction will do that in spades. It means that everyone will get materially poorer in a very obvious and blatant way within an electoral cycle, or 2 max. No political movement has ever attempted the slogan ‘Vote for us, we’ll make you eat turnips every day’ before, and that is what the Left are attempting. Its just not achievable, once the words get turned into actions. The Left have over reached themselves and are attempting something that will destroy them, and to be perfectly honest I’d stand out of the way and let them get on with it.

  10. There was a video of a guy who’d chained himself to a car and was laying on the ground crying and look at a picture of his two small children, occasionally wailing and asking about their future. Fucking pathetic and sad with a father like that was my first instinct.

    My comment was that the best thing would be to move him and his family to rural India and tell them this is the best outcome of their idiotic policies.

  11. @Jim October 12, 2019 at 10:43 am

    +1

    The government need to start giving some of them what they want…

    +10

    School canteens: one meat and two veg offered – choice: eat it or starve

  12. Pcar,

    Meat? I thought we were doing away with meat because the animals fart and belch and put methane in to the atmosphere, or something like that.

  13. “I thought we were doing away with meat because the animals fart and belch and put methane in to the atmosphere, or something like that.”

    Yes, give them food made from local veg only, low food miles are double plus good doncha know! Will make school dinners in mid winter a bit dreary (turnip soup again) but hey, they’re saving the planet right???

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