Snippa in the FT

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The peril here is that we don’t in fact want each and every supplier, company and producer to be climate or emissions neutral. We desire the system as a whole to be which is a rather different concept.

The making of virgin steel (ie, not recycling using an arc furnace, but making from iron ore in a blast) requires the use of coke. The making of cement is the very process of driving CO2 off the source mineral. There are certain processes which simply cannot be made carbon neutral.

On the other side there are things like planting forests – climate positive or emissions negative, your choice of phrase. – or iron fertilisation of the Southern Ocean, or sucking the CO2 out of the air or, or …..and so on. None of which will ever make economic sense unless there is some method of transferring funds from those who must emit to those who can negative emit. We simply must have that offsetting if any of the clever schemes to have those negative emission are ever to happen.

Thus the base insistence that everyone must be carbon neutral, in fine detail, is incorrect in itself. That’s not what we want to happen at all.

Thus, obviously enough, the scheme fails, doesn’t it?

12 comments on “Snippa in the FT

  1. Oh.

    Well that makes the scheme easier to design and implement, doesn’t it?

  2. How does he get to continue to style himself “Professor” on Nov 6th, almost a week after his office was terminated?

  3. Are you allowed to continue to call yourself a Professor if you were one once…he’s mentioned he now has some link to Angela Ruskin, maybe they will grant some “title” he can use… it’s hardly MIT or Harvard though

  4. @BraceFart

    Only the other day the pompous Spud announced “I do not bet. I am a Quaker”.

    Odd then that he is so wedded to his title as Quakers eschew titles – even to the point of many not using Mr or Mrs – as part of the “Testimony to Equality”. He is obviously a Quaker when it suits him.

    ‘Professor’ is primarily a gifted title and in many cases people can carry on using it after retiring (Perhaps using Professor Emeritus to denote their retirement).

    I’m not sure if “Professor of Practice obtained by collecting 3 cornflakes’ packet tops” has the same rules.

    Perhaps someone should ask him. As a Quaker I’m sure he’d be delighted to stop going against the “Testament to Equality”.

  5. I’m confused. Tim, is the quote Murphy’s, or your response to Murphy? Looks more like the latter.

  6. I thought in his sustainable management accounting he was dead set against trade-offs and offsets, that he’s listens to feedback and made a change is suprising

  7. There are birthright Quakers, there are convincement Quakers; Richard is what we call a leg-over Quaker. 😉

  8. I thought in his sustainable management accounting he was dead set against trade-offs and offsets, that he’s listens to feedback and made a change is surprising.

    Surprising? Not really. He’s chasing money. What this says is he probably got some feedback from the NGOs he is trying to tap for a grant.

    Richard Murphy would never compromise his principles, but he will do anything for that next grant.

  9. some method of transferring funds from those who must emit to those who can negative emit

    £70pw benefits to rough sleepers?

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    @Andrew C November 6, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    I’m not sure if “Professor of Practice obtained by collecting 3 cornflakes’ packet tops”

    Cereal: seen in Tesco today
    https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/304190147“>Kellogg’s Coco Pops Bowl Mug & Spoon £8.00

    £8 for that? If anyone is stupid enough to buy as a present, they deserve derision not fake smiles

  10. I think the comment in the blog is Tim’s reply on FT not Spud’s letter.

    Spud is still saying no offsetting. But I think it might be dawning on him how dumb that is.

    He is having a think about it.

  11. Richard Murphy would never compromise his principles, but he will do anything for that next grant.

    To paraphrase Marvin Lee Aday, I’ll do anything to get a grant and I’ll even do that.

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