We must elect a new people

Ritchie’s rather Berlin in 1953:

So austerity, stagnant real wages, growing inequality, universal credit, no house building, the bedroom tax, a 15% decline in the exchange rate since 2016, public services in crisis and record levels of household debt that threaten the stability of his economy are matters on which he and his party are in denial even if they all happened as a result of their policy.

Objectively, most people are worse off now than in 2010. They have worse public services. They have more limited hopes if they can correctly appraise their prospects.

And the Tories are saying nothing at all about what they will do about any of this.

Instead the only talk is of Brexit.

But Brexit was unknown to almost anyone as an idea, let alone an objective, a decade ago.

The truth is that we must have a trade deal with our EU partners, come what may, and eventually will.

And the reality is that of the pressing issues facing this country Brexit comes immeasurably far behind the climate crisis, and yet Johnson is going to refuse to debate that issue.

Objectively, then, the Tories are running a dire campaign. And if opinion polls are anything like right they are winning.

Why is that? It can only be because of media manipulation.

Well, a plurality of the electorate do seem to think that Brexit is important, as the referendum result showed. But isn’t that lovely of Snippa? The people disagree with Snippa, therefore we need a new people.

24 comments on “We must elect a new people

  1. Instead the only talk is of Brexit.

    That’s just lies tho, in’t it? The Tories are making spending promises like a drunk sailor at a whorehouse on payday. And just the other day they were congratulating themselves for fetching lil’ jihadiwaddis from Syria and bringing them “home”.

    Brexit comes immeasurably far behind the climate crisis

    I may be out of the loop because I don’t watch telly, but is there any scientific evidence at all that there’s a “climate crisis”? Sounds like they’re just crying and masturbating furiously like when we had only 8 years to save the world in 2009, and children wouldn’t see snow again in 1999.

    What’s changed, apart from average IQ’s continuing to get dumberer and more mongoloid?

  2. Nobody, literally nobody at all, has any objection to a trade deal with our neighbours. I didn’t vote Leave in order to use Imperial-sized gaskets on car engines.

    But a trade deal is different from allowing the EU to set our laws with no democratic control. Though you’d hardly expect Spud to be able to grasp the distinction.

  3. Trite law, I know, but trade deals are intrinsically protectionist.

    We don’t need (nor does anyone else, outside of governing classes) ‘trade deals’.

    Trade deals is governing class-speak for, “how would you chumps sell stuff to each other without us?”

  4. ‘Why is that? It can only be because of media manipulation.’

    Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.

    And no one believes the press is for the Tories.

    ‘And the Tories are saying nothing at all about what they will do about any of this.’

    Why should they? “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” – Sun Tsu

    Of course, EL is correct. But Murphy has shown repeatedly that he can’t stand people trading with each other; government MUST be in the middle of it.

  5. ‘The people disagree with Snippa, therefore we need a new people.’

    ‘We must elect a new people’

    It’s far bigger. The West won’t accept socialism because of cultural hegemony (Gramsci). So you replace the people with immigrants from third world countries, who DON’T SHARE THE CULTURE. Nor do you try to assimilate them; that defeats the whole purpose.

  6. The great potato might be right about the lack of house building in Ely but there is no shortage of new building in my neck of the woods, together with a total lack of new infrastructure to handle the growth of residents.

    This is what happens when you dream of world domination in a shabby small provincial town

  7. But a trade deal is different from allowing the EU to set our laws with no democratic control. Though you’d hardly expect Spud to be able to grasp the distinction.

    I made this point on here before the referendum and I made it again last night to a Remainer …

    I don’t care if MPs pass every law and regulation which comes out of Brussels after we leave. I just want MPs to defend them rather than claiming they had no choice.

    (OK, I’ll probably be livid but only in the sense I’m livid with most things Government does)

  8. @Steve “The Tories are making spending promises like a drunk sailor at a whorehouse on payday”

    Well, if I’m honest I suspect that’s unfair on most drunken sailors on payday. I do remember when I was at my prime when, even if drunk, I’m fairly sure I could have made good on most of any promises made in a whorehouse. Today, obviously things are very different.

    If you were to say that the drunken sailor in your analogy had been hitting the sauce too hard for 20 odd years and was now just a shambling laughing stock as he made his promises then I’d agree with you.

  9. “Diogenes

    The great potato might be right about the lack of house building in Ely but there is no shortage of new building in my neck of the woods, together with a total lack of new infrastructure to handle the growth of residents.”

    Ditto my neck of the woods between Southampton and Winchester where it’s rapidly seeming like an army of ant-like builders is throwing up houses on any field they can find (including golf courses) but not a single extra road is being built beyond the ones getting people off the new estates.

  10. This cunt has no idea it’s people like him who are responsible for ‘Brexit’ and people voting Conservative.

    Long may it continue.

  11. @ Pcar
    If the Dolphyn Green project works it will be a relatively intelligent use of windpower straight into a power storage mechanism that can be used to offset the predictable (especially in the unpredictability of their timing) slumps in power generated by offshore wind. £427k to test it out to see if it works looks pretty cheap to me.
    We should still need capacity that was more than four times demand as average output from windpower over the year is less than one-quarter of rated capacity [ignoring the energy wasted in conversion by electrolysis, pumping, and reconverting the H2 to H2O without an explosion]

  12. I suspect almost all politicians eventually feel deeply disappointed and betrayed that the people proved to be unworthy of them. Ms. Clinton, for example.

  13. Boris want to make this about Brexit – after all that’s was why he called the Election – but TPTB want to make it all about the usual Tory Austerity, privatise the NHS etc, because they still cling onto the notion of foiling Brexit. Ergo, Conservatives smart to promise the world even if you subsequently only deliver the atlas. My take for what it is worth, is that an awful lot of people will vote Conservative as a protest vote against all politicians on account of the nonsense of the last three years. Get Brexit done is a powerful message and if you really believe it you can vote for soppy socialism next time round when the Blairites have regrouped and retaken the shell of the Labour Party. Anecdotes are of course no decent basis for analysis but I have had multiple conversations recently where reluctant Remainers are now stridently out, but despite what the Guardian keep telling me not a single conversation has gone the other direction.

  14. @Andrew C November 24, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    +1

    Elect Who?

    The voters’ choice – Left, Left or Left

    UK’s two main Left-wing parties, Labour and the Liberal Democrats, are ratcheting up the progressive agenda at this election, … how long will it be before the Tories are implementing their manifestos for them? We all know how eagerly the dubiously named ‘Conservative’ Party apes the Left, chasing socialist votes that will never come while hubristically taking their own base for granted. ‘You wouldn’t want a Marxist government, would you?’ they ask. No, I wouldn’t. So please can you stop behaving like one.

    All the evidence to date indicates Brexit is not going to be what Leavers thought it was.

    The Conservative Party in the recent Rotten Parliament has an earned abysmal name for not respecting the voters nor keeping its promises. This is not new. Over the years many Tory MPs have told me that the voters are too poorly educated to understand complex choices and that keeping the party together in the House of Commons is more important. One might ask whose fault it is that their education was so poor

    Spot on and depressing

    Choice: Left & Brino or Left & Remain

    My advice to Boris Johnson is don’t presume that if you take away the Brexit Party candidate we’re all going to fall into line and vote for whoever the Conservative Party deigns to offer. John Major 1997 is example – Conservative Voters didn’t vote

  15. @john77

    If Dolphyn Green project is “a relatively intelligent use of windpower” why does it require Taxpayer funding & subsidies?

    It may appear “relatively intelligent”, but so did 1970’s Salter’s Duck – wave power over 40 years later still a dead duck

  16. Tidal power is more feasible that wave power, but it involves one set of greenies fighting another set of greenies.

  17. Tidal power: If that one were practical, we’d have done it in the Netherlands. BIG estuary field with most of the infrastructure already in place in the form of our Delta Works.

    Turns out the whole thing ends up as one big silt trap, and you’ll be spending more energy battling the silt that you’ll ever generate from the tide.

    And anything deep enough to have the capacity to take a bit of silt… Haven’t seen Norway or Scotland do anything serious in that area, and they got the fjords ( dunno what they’re called in gaelic..) that might make it feasible.

  18. I suspect almost all politicians eventually feel deeply disappointed and betrayed that the people proved to be unworthy of them. Ms. Clinton, for example.

    Good. May it ever be thus.

    I do hope she runs in the 2020 Presidential race, the laughs will be awesome. I’ll be surprised if she survives to be quite honest (both physically and politically), since last time nearly killed her.

  19. That Wiki link produced an interesting line.

    The Italian Marxist theorist Antonio Gramsci developed the concept of cultural hegemony, the process within Capitalist societies by which the ruling classes create particular norms, values, and stigmas, amounting to a culture in which their continued dominance is considered beneficial

    Pretty well defines our liberal elite, doesn’t it?

  20. @john77

    According to the Govt’s “experts” the main source of hydrogen will be steam reforming of methane, as now. However they anticipate the plants will be fitted with CCS, assuming someone gets the technology to work by the time it is needed

    From articles and comments elsewhere, producing hydrogen by electrolysis is inefficient and expensive, partly because the technology does not enjoy much economy of scale. Anyway, with electricity demand forecast to double and numerous coal and old nuclear plants scheduled to close soon, it’s very doubtful that there will ever be any surplus wind or solar power.

    While I agree that nuclear is a very good option we are at least 20 years to late with any of the possible new technologies. Look at how long it took to get Sizewell B approved and built despite the technology being in widespread use all over the world for decades.

    Imho our energy system has been completely screwed by political incompetence over many years and it is now too late to recover the situation. Rationing by pricing (via smart meters) or, more likely, rolling blackouts is the future.

    When the head of the grid left the job a few years ago he said that we will all have to adjust from power being available when required to power only being supplied when available.
    (c)Mike Higton

  21. “but not a single extra road is being built beyond the ones getting people off the new estates.”

    The opposite is not necessarily good. We’ve got the money here in my state. Road changes are being made. But, as Johnny Carson opined 30 years ago about Los Angeles, “The shortest distance between two points is under construction.”

    Roads are being improved, and it’s a fvcking mess.

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