Tariq\’s Cigar Case

So, Boris Johnson picked up Tariq Aziz (well spotted that man)\’s cigar case 5 years ago, from the ruins of his villa. Now the Met is insisting that he hand it over to them:

A Met Police spokesman said: "The Met works very closely with a number of countries, including Iraq, to recover items that are considered culturally significant. In order to establish the origin and potential significance of the item, such items must be submitted to police custody for further examination.

"The MPS treats the theft of, and cultural dealing of, property from abroad very seriously. The steps we are taking are proportionate with a view to repatriating an item which could be of cultural or historical significance to the Iraqis."

Nice that Ken\’s got them working on the important stuff, isn\’t it?

Might be worth noting that direct political control of the police would only make such things worse.

18 thoughts on “Tariq\’s Cigar Case”

  1. “The Met works very closely with a number of countries, including Iraq, to recover items that are considered culturally significant. “

    And this includes Tariq Ali’s cigar case…??!?

  2. My understanding is that if the police have a crime reported to them then they are duty bound to investigate it – which is definitely preferable to them deciding which cases to investigate and which not to.
    Meanwhile what idiot politician decided to advertise his tea-leafing and justify it with self-serving bluster? And then fantasise about ‘his enemies’ being responsible for his plight – ‘honest guv, not my fault’.
    That’s a potential mayor of London?!

  3. My understanding is that if the police have a crime reported to them then they are duty bound to investigate it

    Oh I see. When my car was broken into I got a crime number and that was it. A neighbour reported kids smashing up a bus shelter and that was it.

    They may well be duty bound but they seem rather selective about carry out their duty. It’s almost as is Ian Blair was a buddy of our Ken.

  4. Oh I see. When my car was broken into I got a crime number and that was it. A neighbour reported kids smashing up a bus shelter and that was it.

    Perhaps; however, if you’d reported that Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue broke into your car, the police would certainly have come round to have a word with Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue.

  5. “…however, if you’d reported that Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue broke into your car, the police would certainly have come round to have a word with Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue”

    Of course they would, dear boy….

    Yes, TDK, what your neighbour should have done was go over to the kids smashing up the bus shelter and ask for ID before phoning the police. Can’t expect them to turn up to a crime in progress, it’s not like we pay them for that, is it?

    Oh, hang on…

  6. Of course they would, dear boy….

    Err, well, yes, they would. I’m not saying the police are perfect, or even any good at all, but it’s not the case here that Boris is getting special treatment because Ken is the complainant.

    Rather, the police are better at finding people when given their names and addresses compared to, err, when they aren’t. And once they do have a name and address, they pretty much are bound to speak to the person in question, even if it’s only so they can write the whole thing off as “nothing to see here”.

  7. “….this being a ‘police state or otherwise’ thread, can we have three cheers for Tony Singh,…”

    Yes. When we find out:

    a) if his DNA was taken after arrest, and
    b) if it’s been retained for future use

  8. Doug, precisely what crime has been commited in this country by Mr Johnson? I understand the govt now positively encourages crimes in any other country. Perhaps Mr Johnson should store his spoils in Lichtenstein?

    Zorro.

  9. johnb: Tony should not have been arrested. The CPS decided not to prosecute this time; you may not be so lucky, especially if your attacker didn’t happen to be a wanted felon.

  10. Zorro
    I said if a crime is reported … and try reading the article – there are laws against importing stolen cultural artifacts. The police are not saying that Johnson committed a crime either – though he is as guilty as hell of being an idiot.
    ‘Political control of the police is bad?’
    Nothing about political control, personally I prefer a police force that does not pick and choose which reported crimes to investigate – whether through politics, prejudice or feeling grumpy. You might prefer a police force that decides for itself which laws to enforce and which to ignore – good for you.

  11. “a) if his DNA was taken after arrest, and
    b) if it’s been retained for future use”

    Yes, it will have been. Yes, it will be retained. He also won’t be able to travel to the US without queuing for a day outside the US embassy in London to get a special visa (people who have been arrested are not eligible for the Visa Waiver Programme). And he’ll need luck getting a visa with a name like Singh, because the security droids in the US think Sikhs are Arabs (all Arabs being terrorists, of course).

    “Doug, precisely what crime has been committed in this country by Mr Johnson?”

    Specifically the taking of a cultural relic from Iraq, which was made a UK offence by a statutory instrument in 2003. This would be utterly untenable, except that Boris referred to it as a relic in a column of his (Boris was joking, but the Filth are not).

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    john b – “however, if you’d reported that Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue broke into your car, the police would certainly have come round to have a word with Dave Smith of Acacia Avenue.”

    A friend of mine had his very expensive mobile phone stolen in London. By a guy who had a very angry ex-girlfriend. For some reason the thief’s voice mail went to my friend’s old voice mail which he could still access. In no time my friend had a word with the Ex and knew the guy’s name, his phone number, his address, where he didn’t work, his favourite pub. Everything. He told the police. All he got was a phone call from the criminal involved telling him that he, the crim, would break his legs if he ever heard from the police. His Ex had told him – the police had not bothered to do a damn thing.

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