Why Can\’t All the Gukhas Become Citizens?March 24, 2008 Tim WorstallEuropean Union15 CommentsBecause the EU says they can\’t. Can we leave yet? Please? previousPhillip BlondnextTee Hee 15 thoughts on “Why Can\’t All the Gukhas Become Citizens?” Eva March 24, 2008 at 5:47 pm Why not just give them citizenship regardless of EU regulations? What can Brussels do? The French are better at this kind of thing. Will Rhodes March 24, 2008 at 6:39 pm Whatever happened to the EEC? The Gurkha’s have expended so much in the defence of the UK it should be a formality for all of them to become citizens. Dan March 24, 2008 at 7:02 pm There’s a petition up at No. 10’s website, I signed this morning. Perhaps you could publicise it: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Gurkha-soldiers/ Dan March 24, 2008 at 7:06 pm Oh, and I’m with Eva. Just do it anyway. I mean, what ARE they going to do? Eva March 24, 2008 at 7:23 pm If the jellyfish (spineless, tentacled & toxic) in government must save face on this issue, surely having a Queen must have some uses? – and Dan, thanks for the heads-up on the petition! Kay Tie March 24, 2008 at 7:34 pm With a foreboding at the reaction, I want to just point out that the EU is a free-residence zone to anyone with a passport from an EU country. It is of great benefit to all of us that this is so (compare this with the difficult of migrating to the US or Canada, for example). Therefore, given that all must respect each other’s citizenship criteria, it is not unreasonable that some minimum standards are set on granting citizenship. (and in the seven seconds of flight time before the rocks hit my head, I want to just gabble out Idon’tagreewithwhatishappeningtotheGurkhaseitherand… ow!) Dan March 24, 2008 at 8:08 pm Kay Tie, agreed. But fuck them anyway, we’re British and we want to make an exception to help people, who have over the years, made great sacrifices in the name of this Country. Eva March 24, 2008 at 9:09 pm Kay Tie, true. So let’s set *our* minimum standards for citizenship that apply in cases where exceptional people are not members of the EU, and make it honorary, or in the gift of the queen or something like that. Someone could use a bit of imagination. Other countries also give honorary citizenships or just honors. john cramer March 25, 2008 at 12:02 am Just train the Gurkhas to tell the same lies that other immigrants do. Tell the horrors of living in mountainous ares and how they will be persecuted if deported. That might help. It works for Africans. Tim Newman March 25, 2008 at 12:03 am Therefore, given that all must respect each other’s citizenship criteria, it is not unreasonable that some minimum standards are set on granting citizenship. If these standards are currently so low that they include Islamic loons with hooks for hands who live solely off the British taxpayer whilst calling for the head of the Prime Minister, then I don’t see the Gurkha’s failing to meet the criteria. Kay Tie March 25, 2008 at 12:49 am “If these standards are currently so low that they include Islamic loons with hooks for hands who live solely off the British taxpayer whilst calling for the head of the Prime Minister, then I don’t see the Gurkha’s failing to meet the criteria.” Not wishing to step up to the mark and defend the EU and the Government, I merely rhetorically ask whether Hook Boy would qualify under the new rules Tim cited. “Tell the horrors of living in mountainous ares and how they will be persecuted if deported.” Just for a moment let me get all pedantic and say that citizenship is not the same as residence. Refugees get residence rights, not citizenship. They can’t normally travel within the EU without a visa, don’t get a British passport, etc. Tim adds: Worth noting that Hook Boy got his citiszenship by marriage: althouh it may have been bigamous. There’s a slow moving process going on to see if it was and possibly strip him of it. Will Rhodes March 25, 2008 at 2:13 am Signed. I hope it goes well for the Gurkha’s. Eva March 25, 2008 at 11:25 am If someone’s willing to lay their life on the line for a country, surely they deserve citizenship, assuming they aren’t felons or otherwise undesirable? Kay Tie March 25, 2008 at 11:46 am “If someone’s willing to lay their life on the line for a country, surely they deserve citizenship, assuming they aren’t felons or otherwise undesirable?” Try that argument in the Land of the Free. Uncle Sam even drafts non-citizen residents. The Remittance Man March 25, 2008 at 12:43 pm Eva actually touches on an interesting point. The French are doing something about it: It’s still part of the terms of engagment for any recruit into the Foreign Legion: A legionnaire of foreign nationality can ask for French nationality after three years service. He must be serving under his real name and no longer have problems with the authorities, and he must have served with “honour and fidelity” for at least three years. French nationality cannot be granted under declared identity. Furthermore, a soldier who becomes injured during a battle for France can apply for French citizenship under a provision known as “Français par le sang versé” (”French by spilled blood”). (source – wikipedia) Kaye Tie, Uncle Sam hasn’t drafted anyone into the military since 1973. Even registering for the draft is pretty much voluntary nowadays, although it is, strictly speaking, still obligatory for all males between 18 and 25. Nobody has been prosecuted for failure to register since 1986. Non-citizens eligable for the draft do have to provide proof of registration when they apply for citizenship, however. (source- Wikipedia) Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.