Timmy ElsewhereApril 8, 2008 Tim WorstallTimmy Elsewhere9 CommentsThe Business. The relative costs of State and private schools. previousFeeling Hungry?nextTimmy Elsewhere 9 thoughts on “Timmy Elsewhere” Eva April 8, 2008 at 4:42 pm To which must be added that children in private schools are a self selecting group (selected by their parents, anyway) that usually do the necessary work to get a good education, if only because their parents give them grief and the schools are able to boot them out otherwise. State schools – and the pupils in them – have to cope with the children who don’t want to be there, get no support from their parents, and generally make life difficult for teachers and those students who do want to learn. Until that fact is dealt with, state schools aren’t going to get better in the U.S. or England. Mark Wadsworth April 8, 2008 at 4:53 pm Thanks for link, John B haggled me down to about £7,000 per pupil, a smidge less than private school fees. Matthew April 8, 2008 at 5:07 pm Where’s the article, Mark? Gallimaufry April 8, 2008 at 5:26 pm Matthew, Try: http://markwadsworth.blogspot.com/2008/02/average-spending-per-pupil-in-state-and.html Given that Labour’s university fees are now accepted by the NUS would it not be sensible to introduce school fees at state schools to make parents and pupils value education more. But which party would reduce taxation to compensate? dearieme April 8, 2008 at 6:29 pm When we moved our daughter we were mindful of the ample green playing fields around the school, the smaller class sizes and the swimming pool. But we thought we’d still leave those behind and send her private. Matthew April 8, 2008 at 6:32 pm I love how Mark’s ‘they probably get only a bit less than a cheaper private school’ turns into Tim’s ‘they get the same amount of money’. In fact Mark’s figures put the private schools at about 39% higher. Mark Wadsworth April 9, 2008 at 12:19 am Matthew, we have haggled further over at mine, as a matter of fact, spending per State pupil is maybe 10% or 20% less than the cheapest private schools. Average private school fees is a meaningless figure as it is skewed by nonsense like Eton and boarding schools at £25k a pop. HJ April 9, 2008 at 4:04 pm To add to Mark Wadsworth’s comment, not only do boarding schools distort (upwards) average independent school fees, but school fees do not give a good indicator of cost per pupil. Remember, about 30% of independent school pupils get some sort of assistance with fees, so the cost per pupil is much lower than the fees would suggest. Gallimaufry April 9, 2008 at 5:16 pm Try this 2007 annual census from the ISC: http://www.isc.co.uk/Publications_ISCCensus.htm Page 7 is interesting. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.