Banning Mobile Phones

A nice piece of banstubation here. We have the first part, a real tragedy:

Drivers have been given a stark warning of the dangers of hands-free mobile phone calls after a haulier was jailed for causing a fatal crash whilst talking on a Bluetooth headset.

Then we have the call for the ban:

Relatives of Mr Buston and road safety charities called for an outright ban on making phone calls whilst driving, which makes drivers four times more likely to have an accident, even if they are using a hands-free kit.

Umm, four times more likely than what? Then we have the enumeration of the actual dangers:

Around 30 deaths on the roads each year are linked to mobile phone use, but the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) believes this is "just the tip of the iceberg" because so few drivers admit to using mobile phones when they cause crashes.

Which means that, given the 4,000 or so deaths a year on the road that mobile phones are resonsible for some 1% or so of them.

Then we come to the real crunch point:

Roger Vincent, a spokesman for RoSPA, urged the government to impose a blanket ban on making phone calls whilst driving, saying the current laws banning the use of hand-held mobiles failed the address the issue.

"It is the conversation itself that is the problem, because people get more and more involved in that and pay less and less attention to the road," he said.

So, are we to ban drivers from conversing with their passengers?



17 thoughts on “Banning Mobile Phones”

  1. “So, are we to ban drivers from conversing with their passengers?”

    Oh, god! Don’t give them ideas

    A better idea – far stiffer penalties for idiots who do insane things at the wheel like take their eyes off the road.

  2. Heard some woman from that pressure group Brake a year or so ago, saying that the state should ban mobile calls while driving and then access phone logs after accidents to prove whether a call was made. She was asked in the interview whether drivers should also be banned from talking to their passengers, and her answer was that that would be too difficult to enforce. That’s the only problem those maniacs can see with such a law: enforcement.

  3. So Much For Subtlety

    Fiddling with the radio!

    Apparently it is as dangerous as drink driving. Indeed one of the two times I have come close to causing an accident involved changing the station.

    Ban that then too.

  4. Have road deaths been falling in recent years? Surely that suggests that no new legislation is required.
    If road deaths were increasing then maybe there would be a point, but not if we’re already getting it right.

  5. “Have road deaths been falling in recent years? Surely that suggests that no new legislation is required.”

    But grieving relatives and road safety charities must be appeased! Something must be seen to be done…!

    Don’t go bringing logic and reason into it… 😉

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    You can get mini-CCTV cameras in cars now. The Americans have built a “black box” for cars. It records the last five minutes or so of anyone’s driving. Stopping, of course, should the car come to an unexpected sudden halt or even experience unusual acceleration. It takes pictures of the driver’s face usually, mounted on the dash, but I think you can put the camera where you like.

    Apparently it cuts down accidents among teens quite a lot.

  7. “…but I think you can put the camera where you like.”

    Depends on how big it is. Or how many right-angled protuberances… 😀

  8. “Have road deaths been falling in recent years? Surely that suggests that no new legislation is required.”

    It doesn’t work like that:

    Road Safety Minister Jim Fitzpatrick welcomed the decline but said road safety improvements were still needed.

    “These figures are extremely encouraging. They show that for the first time since records began in 1926 the number of people killed on our roads has fallen below 3,000.

    “But these figures make us determined to do even more. Far too many people are still dying and we will continue to do everything we can to improve road safety and further reduce the numbers of people killed or injured.”

    In other words, the smaller the problem is, the more bansturbation is needed!


  9. So Much For Subtlety

    Judge – “In other words, the smaller the problem is, the more bansturbation is needed!”

    Or as Stalin put it, the more the Revolution developed the more that the die-hard Counter-Revolutionaries would oppose it, and so the greater the achievements of Socialism in One Country, the greater the Repression needed.

    Who said this collection of former Stalinists and Trots has changed?

  10. “Have road deaths been falling in recent years?”

    Hard to know – the figures from the police and the hospitals disagree.

  11. >> “Mini CCTV cameras. In every dashboard… “

    > Oh, god! Don’t give them ideas…

    Too late, I think. Weren’t they talking a while ago about steering wheels with built-in passive breathalysers?

  12. Get the price of gasoline up even higher. Pay the suppliers bribes to charge us even more. Allow the roads to deteriorate to the point they’re barely passable. Make gas-tanks of more than 1 liter illegal–more time in the stations and less on the road. Be creative.

    The first auto accident in the US happened in Columbus, Ohio. It was broad daylight, perfect weather.

    At the time of the accident–a head-on collision on the broad, main street of town–the two were the only automobiles in the state of Ohio.

    No cell phones were involved. The witnesses had never even heard of ’em, I’d guess.

  13. gene-Columbus drivers haven’t changed a lot since. but that was the first auto accident involving two automobiles. The first “auto accident” was also in Ohio-
    “Because of Ohio’s important role in the early automobile industry, the state was the site of numerous firsts in automobile history. Among these firsts was the first automobile accident. In 1891, James William Lambert was involved in the first automobile accident in world history. The accident occurred in Ohio City, Ohio. Lambert’s vehicle — the first single-cylinder gasoline automobile, which was carrying Lambert and James Swoveland, hit a tree root, causing the car to careen out of control and smash into a hitching post. Injuries from this accident were minor. Lambert proceeded to patent over six hundred inventions, mostly affiliated with the automobile industry. ”
    source-“Ohio History”

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