I\’ve outsourced the critique of Polly today to another place.

Do read it, it is quite gobsmacking.

11 thoughts on “Polly Today”

  1. “Now 90% of tax payers are on the basic rate, earning less than £22,300”

    90% of people earn less than £22.3k?

  2. GH – that sounds possible, except that Polly says tax-payers, and children – most of them, at any rate – aren’t tax payers. Later on in the article, she’s also quoted as saying

    “A speech like that would warm the cockles of the 90% of voters who earn too little to enter the 40% tax bracket – under £35,000 – yet still pay more of their earnings in tax.”

    …ok, that’s ‘voters’ rather than ‘tax payers’, but it sounds to me as if she’s got her wires crossed somewhere…

  3. it sounds to me as if she’s got her wires crossed somewhere…

    It’s easy to tell when that happens. Whenever she says anything, it’s happened.

  4. I think £22,300 is the average adult salary, including those who don’t work. 90% don’t pay higher-rate tax sounds about right.

    So I think she is a bit confused. Tax Freedom Day is a ridiculous concept, of course, and also quiet offensive. For instance it implies that our Armed Forces, risking their lives in Afghanistan, are worthless.

  5. PT, as usual, offers a poor argument.

    However, being able to shoot down a poorly constructed article does not make your position and arguments any better or congruent with the way the real world actually works.

    Subbing out your argument to the school playground that is the Spectator not only shows piss poor judgment but also represents a position and argument that is worse than PT’s usuual sorry offerings.

    I mean come on lad. You’ve not even sussed out that economics is a faith. You are still under the delusion that it’s a science.

    But then I suppose one should not be surprised from someone who publically revels in his association with an organisation dedicated to a 17th century reductionist dogma. It’s like listening to a quack who has not progressed beyond proscribing a course of leeches. reality and the real world has moved on since Adam Smith Tim. Get over it.

    Try and keep up with some grown up arguments rather than the simplistic nonsense over at the spectator.

    You could start here:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jun/02/globaleconomy.globalrecession

    or even;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jun/03/economics.policy

    or, for something closer to your level:

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/mogambo.html

  6. Tax Freedom Day is a ridiculous concept, of course, and also quiet offensive. For instance it implies that our Armed Forces, risking their lives in Afghanistan, are worthless.

    If we start with national defence, then add justice and law enforcement, and then follow with things like education healthcare and the like, I think you will see the error of your logic. We have paid for the nations finest in the first couple of weeks of January, and law and order by the end of the month. We could easily cut taxes in half and still pay for those things that most people feel are essential (and by most people I don’t mean the readers of this blog, they would probably go for a 75% discount).

    Tax Freedom Day is only a ridiculous concept if you are a grasping leftie who believes that all money belongs to the state and not the individual that earned it.

  7. I think I understand the concept more than you do. The ASI website says that until TFD day you are ‘working for the Chancellor’ and not ‘for yourself’. This is obviously only true if one believes one gets no personal benefit from having people ris their lives fighting wars on your behalf.

    If believing that to be nonsense makes me a ‘grasping lefty’ then so be it, although I have no idea what that phrase means in practice – are you asserting you pay more net tax than I do? How would you know?

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