The English

This will cause outrage:

The loss is down from £24.3bn in 2008 – a record for a UK company. Despite the loss, RBS said it will be paying out bonuses to reward staff for a record year for its investment banking business. Stephen Hester, RBS\’s chief executive, has said that on pay the bank is a prisoner to market rates.

This will cause less:

The senior managers who presided over one of Britain’s worst hospital scandals, in which up to 1,200 patients died, have all escaped being disciplined, it has emerged.

No one on the board at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust has faced censure and all of them were either paid off, walked into another job or allowed to remain in post. The man who ran the hospital trust received a large pay-off despite his part in the scandal.

Martin Yeates, the former chief executive, left the trust “by mutual agreement” with a pay-off of £400,000 and a pension worth £1.27 million, it has been alleged.

We English have always got in a tizzy over money….that dreaded \”trade\” thing. Less so over fuck ups in the public services which kill people.

We\’re not the most balanced of people at times.

15 thoughts on “The English”

  1. Do you have a theory about where the antipathy towards trade/money comes from?

    I have always assumed it’s a holdover from the days of classic war waging aristocrats and merchants, but perhaps that’s too trite.

  2. Quite. Over a thousand people killed by incompetent managers chasing targets at a hospital and it seems to pass quietly into the night, whereas bankers getting contractually agered bonuses is akin to eating babies in the public’s eyes.

    How very sad.

  3. Brian, follower of Deornoth

    It’s because the mass-murderers are public sector employees. They, being naturally saints, could earn a lot more in the private sector with their incredible levels of talent, but they devote themselves to our service for a pittance.

    And if hundreds die, that’s entirely the fault of a parsimonious treasury, not allowing them to have everything they want. And greedy companies avoiding tax. And Margaret Thatcher’s spending cuts. And the public insisting on being ill during weekends and at Christmas (if only they ate healthily and didn’t smoke and drink, they wouldn’t be ill so it’s all their fault). And…oh, I expect the man in the moon must share the blame; because the employees cannot be responsible (see first para).

  4. RBS bonuses are only an issue because Mr Gordo interfered in the first place. If he’d left them to sink or swim, as he should have done, most of us (excepting the terminally Marxist) would have neither known nor cared who Stephen Hester is, much less been concerned about his staff’s bonus payments. If you don’t like your bank’s policies, use a different bank.

    Martin Yeates, despite presiding over a publically-funded monopoly and being grossly incompetent, is rewarded for his complicity with even more public money.

    Anyone more angry over the first than the second is certifiable.

  5. The above and the “World Class Service” that I have received from my local NHS hospital make me thankful that I’m going private for a serious op today.

  6. I reckon that one of the few things that the present shower in office have done with any “success” is that by demonising bankers and the financial services they’ve managed to take a lot of the heat off their own incompetence.

    From reading comments on blogs and HYS, it’s obvious that they’ve managed to pull the wool over the eyes of a lot of otherwise intelligent and rational people too.

    Oh, and I’m not a banker. 🙂

  7. Sorry, LFAT, but I don’t think they were killed by managers, more like incompetent/ lazy/ uncaring Doctors and Nurses.

  8. I’d guess that the money phobia comes from medieval Roman Catholicism and post-Reformation Puritanism. This notion would look rather feeble if anyone could show that it really is concentrated among Yer Aristocracy.

  9. Jonathan, Akio Toyoda didn’t design the accelerator control system in the Toyota Auris, but he’s the one who has to carry the can. The buck stops here, as someone once said.

  10. Ian, the point I was trying to make was that no-one in the NHS ever seems to take responsibility, not Ministers, not Managers, not Doctors or Nurses.
    Toyota as a whole will suffer for the mistakes of a design team. Mid Staffs NHS Trust, however, sail on regardless after “lessons have been learned”.

  11. The NHS needs an anonymous whistleblower department, much like the one available to Pilots and Air Traffic Controllers to report near-misses and dangerous situations.

    The nursing staff, the hospital doctors out on the wards, must all have known about this state of affairs. They should be able to flag up the problem to an independant agency without risking their careers.

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