Is it just me?

Or is there something terribly wrong with this idea?

Huge quantities of methane below the Arctic seabed are showing signs of destabilising, according to research conducted in the East Siberian Sea.

Scientists aboard Russian icebreakers have discovered that methane is leaking from the sub-sea permafrost far faster than had been previously estimated, raising concerns that climatic tipping points may have been reached.

As a greenhouse gas, methane is 25 times more powerful than carbon dioxide but emissions from subsea permafrost are not included in climate change prediction models.

“The sub-sea permafrost should act as a cap or seal, preventing leakage,” Natalia Shakhova, of the University of Alaska, told The Times. “Beneath it there is methane that has accumulated at high pressure. But the permafrost is losing its ability to be an impermeable cap.”

What sub sea permafrost? The deep ocean is above freezing point. Has to be, otherwise life on earth wouldn\’t be possible.

Further, absolutely no one is saying that the deep sea is warming up.

So what is going on here?

Am I, as I suspect I am, missing something?

8 thoughts on “Is it just me?”

  1. They are probably referring to methane hyrdates:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate

    Because of the pressure, they can stay frozen well above zero. As we discussed a few days ago, everything you read by a journalist has to go through a “hmm, I wonder what the scientist said to the journalist” filter, to reconstruct the original material.

    They shouldn’t let journalists write things. It only causes confusion.

  2. google methane hydrates. there’s a fairly wacky theory that they’re responsible for the Bermuda Triangle – occasional undersea landslides trigger instability in the hydrates, which then release huge quantities of gas which froth the sea and sink large ships.

  3. Tim

    No you’re not missing something. You just need to remember that EVERYTHING is caused by global warming, so the newspaper’s word processor just inserts appropriate phrases automatically into every article.

    If you check the real science (ie not the alarmist computer model crystal ball drivel but the stuff where clever people measure things with actual instruments) of the ARGO project that measures global sea temperatures you’ll find there’s no problem. If anything the sea temperature is falling not rising.

    The article is just more from the Mann Made Global Warming scammers.

  4. H,

    We can. Bring it up from the seabed and burn it.

    If a catastrophic methane outgassing is imminent we owe it to Gaia to tap that methane and reduce the climate change potential by turning it into carbon dioxide.

  5. there’s a fairly wacky theory that they’re responsible for the Bermuda Triangle – occasional undersea landslides trigger instability in the hydrates, which then release huge quantities of gas which froth the sea and sink large ships.

    This can be pretty dangerous when you’re rock-dumping over a 30″ gas subsea gas line. It’s a sobering thought to imagine the huge ship your standing on could disappear in under a second should the line rupture. Best drop them rocks from the right height.

  6. Methane hydrates are ice-like materials formed between water and methane under certain conditions of temperature and pressure. There are large amounts present under permafrost in arctic regions but they also form on the seabed, although the latter tend to come and go over time as there is an equilibrium with soluble methane in seawater.

    Both are hydrocarbon resources that potentially dwarf conventional gas reserves.

    A number of collection/extraction methods have been proposed with some initial field trials of extraction from under permafrost already having been carried out in the arctic.

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