Ignorant greenie whining

Some daft worrier sends me an email telling me that:

It takes 6.3 gallons of water to produce just one hamburger. That 6.3 gallons covers everything from watering the wheat for the bun and providing water for the cow to cooking the patty and baking the bun. And that\’s just one meal! It would take over 184 billion gallons of water to make just one hamburger for every person in the United States.

Hmmm, gosh, really? So, lessee, global precipitation (you know, that fresh water that falls, free, from the skies) is 121,000 cubic miles a year.

The land area is 30% and the US is 6.5 % of that meaning that there\’s only 2,350 cubic miles falling on the US, there are 1.1 x 10(12) (err, sorry, can\’t do this power to stuff) gallons to a cubic mile, giving us 2,600,000,000,000,000 gallons of rain a year divide by 184 billion gallons means that….

Hey, disaster! Each American can only have 3,300 burger meals a year! Christ, just think how skinny they\’d all be!

The average American uses 159 gallons of water every day – more than 15 times the average person in the developing world. From showering and washing our hands to watering our lawns and washing our cars, Americans use a lot of water. To put things into perspective, the average five-minute shower will use about 10 gallons of water. Now imagine using that same amount to bathe, wash your clothes, cook your meals and quench your thirst.

So rain in the US is 2,600 quadrillion gallons a year and usage is 17 quadrillion gallons (160 galx300 million Americans x 365 days) or o.65% of total precipitation.

I agree absolutely that there can and will be local problems: but it\’s difficult to see that usage of rainwater in general is a large problem.

Sorry, do you mind if I go and worry about something else instead?

12 thoughts on “Ignorant greenie whining”

  1. Of course water is destroyed after use. There is no possible way to use it more than once via sewage treatment. And not matter how dirty it doesn’t evaporate and turn back to rain.

  2. You’ve missed the point Tim. It’s guilt. That’s the point.

    Still, let us for the moment follow this through. Say American citizens, like this person, washed less and used only 149 gallons instead. What would we do with this water?

    Send it to the developing world?
    Reduce annual rainfall by precisely this amount?
    Let it run into the sea?

    Guilt. Always. Irrational, egocentric guilt.

  3. 10 gallons of water converted into sensible units is 45 kg. During WW2, Axis soldiers fighting in the western desert got about 30 kg of supplies per man per day — that includes everything, food, ammunition, spare parts, petrol, oil, as well as water.

    I don’t regard 45 kg/day for water as being any hardship.

  4. well, Phil, you’re welcome to use 45kg a day.

    Just don’t expect everyone to jump at your command to use 45kg of water a day.

  5. “From showering and washing our hands to watering our lawns and washing our cars, Americans use a lot of water.”

    And Americans get a lot of rain in lots of places throughout the year. Unlike areas that are arid or suffer from monsoons. The problem is one of water management and supply *in the areas where rain is infrequent* not where there is plenty of water.

    There are drawbacks when areas that have infrastructure engineered for a certain level of water flowing through them see lower volumes thanks to less ‘waste’.

  6. Speaking as one who lives in the West of Scotland, I can definitely state that I do not need to worry about water shortages.

    Unless the State gets to manage it, of course, in which case anything might happen.



  7. a few reservoirs in monsoon countries…and does devon chap really believe that water can only be used once? from what sc ience textbooki does that come from…it could only have been written by the desperate AGW academics

  8. ‘It takes 6.3 gallons of water to produce just one hamburger.’

    Fuck me, where do my cows hide it all?

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, I remember now. They piss and shit it out and it goes into the ground, or sweat it off, or I eat them and piss / shit / sweat it out likewise.

    Total loss of water = zero.

    Didn’t some scientist bloke point this out ages ago, you know, that you can’t actually destroy anything and ll that?

    Meh, wadda I know, I’m just a Earth raping farmer.

  9. Still not sure on the maths. First you say that there’s only enough rain for Americans to have 3,300 burgers a year, and then you quote that an average American uses 159 gallons a day (which sounds about right, not sure if Imperial or American gallon).

    Divide 159 by 6.3 and that means Americans use enough water to have 25 burgers a day (if they used no other water), x 365 = 9,125 per year.

    Is the 3,300 perhaps per day? I don’t think anybody could eat that many burgers, and then you’d have to do another calculation on the available land mass if our global cow population went up a hundred fold (or whatever).

  10. Your daft correspondent has overlooked the biggest problem of all.

    American rivers run to the sea !

    All that fresh water mixing with sea water and becoming undrinkable ! It’s a crisis I tell you, a crisis that Americans have utterly failed to stop by damming up all their rivers.


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