Timmy elsewhereFebruary 25, 2011 Tim WorstallTimmy Elsewhere7 CommentsAt El Reg. All hail our glorious cloud computing overlords. previousFemale quotas on boardsnextSnigger 7 thoughts on “Timmy elsewhere” stephen February 25, 2011 at 5:23 pm “My vaguely informed guess is that this problem arises when the user of the good or service is not the one who is making the decision on the quality/price trade-off.” Probably you already know about the Four Kinds of Money: Your own money spent on yourself or those close to you: needs great attention to quality of purchase and to value for money. Your own money spent on other people: value for money is all that counts. Other people’s money spent on yourself: quality, quality, quality. Other people’s money spent on other people: who gives a damn for quality or value? johnny bonk February 25, 2011 at 6:26 pm the cloud is over-hyped – maybe, some decades from now. Ian B February 25, 2011 at 6:56 pm Seeing as “the cloud” is just hypespeak for thin client computing- the very sort of bad structure the personal computer freed us from- it doesn’t take much genius to figure out that “the cloud” is just a big fucking disaster in the making. Like most bad ideas, it appeals to collectivists, because it’s collectivist. They like it for the same reasons they like buses and hate cars. It provides a centralised paradigm which can be imposed on users. And it’s crap, and they always love crap things. Like buses. And, it inolves creepy people like that Erik Schmidt with his “Google will make your decisions for you before you know what you wanted” thing. Socialism isn’t a State monopoly. Think I’ll stick with my old faithful, private, local disk, thanks very much. Thoughtcrim February 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm @IanB Nonsense. Thin client was bad when it meant being connected to a monopoly – a monolithic IT department who controllled the mainframe. Now, as a thin client, we can be client to multiple different providers and pick and choose between them. I can (and have) switched between Google, Apple and Yahoo as a source of email and collaboration services. I can (and have) switched between different cloud-based backup services. For a while, I did run my own Zimbra-based email service, but eventually migrated it to the cloud. Painless – and easy to transfer to another provider if the fancy takes me. Thin client + competition = good thing. Tim Almond February 25, 2011 at 11:06 pm just wait and see the pain that will come from having to cough up to someone who has all of your data tucked away somewhere. This can sometimes be as much of a problem with your own systems as much as the cloud. I worked on some systems for a call centre many years ago, and the bit that did the call switching to a user was proprietary and closed. If they wanted their data out, they’d have paid thousands for the privilege (they had the files but without knowing how they were formed they’d have had trouble). On the other hand, there’s a load of “cloud” apps where you can get your data out at any time. ambrose murphy February 27, 2011 at 11:56 am just reading the comments, I am reminded of credit derivatives – supposedly spreading the risk around and making everything stronger, but in fact both concentrating and mystifying the risk so it couldn’t be either measured or tackled when the S hit the fan. I wonder. roger thornhill March 14, 2011 at 8:48 am If you connect to the Internet, you ARE a thin client. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.