Very Stalinist Chris, very Stalinist

Chris Huhne has ordered a private inquiry into which fossil fuel lobbyists \”got to\” the Conservative MEPs who defied David Cameron and voted down an ambitious carbon emissions target in the European parliament on 5 July.

\”I have asked for a full analysis of what happened,\” said the energy and climate change minister, speaking at an event in parliament. \”We thought the vote was going to be close, but it was not close. We want to see which lobby groups managed to get to the MEPs.\”

Elected representatives could only, possibly, vote against your desires if they were got at, eh?

No possibility at all that they could just think your desires and plans are shite then? This of course being the point of this whole representative democracy thing, that the executive is indeed held to account, constrained, by the peoples\’ representatives?

\”I\’m happy for Huhne to investigate whatever the hell he likes. I just wish he\’d spend more time investigating the huge economic damage that his green policies will do,\” said Tory MEP and climate sceptic Roger Helmer. He added: \”The prime minister is in no position to \’bring Conservative MEPs into line\’. I vote in what I conceive to be the best interests of my country and my constituents: the party whip comes a poor third.\”

Quite…..

18 thoughts on “Very Stalinist Chris, very Stalinist”

  1. Perhaps he could also investigate those who were got at by the AGW alarmist lobby at the same time? Then we can all see how this whole debate is being conducted.

  2. A “private” enquiry? What is a private enquiry? Who is paying for it? Taxpayers? Who is carrying it out?

    Also, note that the Graun’s figures on meetings exclude any meetings with greenies over “unrelated” agricultural and biodiversity, where, of course, one can be sure that climate change was never mentioned. Also that any meeting with an energy company is counted as anti-green, which is stacking the deck a bit is it not, since, by definition, any meeting with the energy industry who actually produce energy has to be with an energy company.

  3. The more he says, the more of an idiot he appears to be. I don’t mean he’s stupid, he just appears to be another clever person with strong ideals who thinks that it will all work out in the end. A bit like the people who say ‘If only everyone would just be nice to each other’

  4. He really is a nasty piece of work, the sooner he becomes leader of the Lib Dems and drives them to well deserved extinction the better. We might even get a proper liberal party back.

  5. If you mean by “proper liberal” some kind of classical liberal/libertarian, they never were. They’re the party of Whigs and Dissenters, not liberty, and always have been.

  6. True Ian B but the Whigs and dissenters were rather more pro liberty than anyone else and I’d like to think that a liberal party shorn of its social democratic parasites might actually start to embrace some classical liberal/libertarian ideas. Probably a vain hope I agree.

  7. With luck this “private enquiry” (brings to mind the old TV series “Public Eye” with the late Alfred Burke playing the seedy PI Frank Marker) will be able to report to Huhne in his jail cell,

  8. Counterpoint. Elected representatives should vote according to their conscience and their stated policies when elected, a balance needs to be struck there, and sometimes compromise is needed. I’m fine with that.

    These Tory MEPs were elected in 2009, on the 2009 Tory EU manifesto, and due to the godawful closed list system, none can claim a personal mandate.

    That manifesto clearly and explicitly set out climate change as being a key area of Tory policy, Cameron campaigned on it as well.

    None that I’ve seen (and I’d be happy to see evidence to the contrary, I’ve not seen it doesn’t mean it’s not there) disavowed the manifesto commitment.

    Not sure what business it is of Huhne’s as he’s not a Tory, this really should be handled by a Tory, but they are basically breaking an election pledge. Whether they’re right to do so is a different issue, naturally, but…

  9. presumably the tory meps were talking to fossil fuel companies who want to stop a big nuclear build out. There will be no coal or gas generation if we have the big nuclear build out. If we go wind then at least gas companies can expect to keep some business, but nuclear electricity ends all fossil fuel electricity generation.

  10. Huhne is quite possibly the most repellent person in UK politics, and remember this is a field which includes both Milibands, Ed Balls, Vince Cable, John Bercow and Harriet Harman. If enacted, his policies will end up killing people. In a just world, he would be held to the same account company officers are when their products or services go awry and people are harmed. I think an equivalent charge to corporate manslaughter should apply to bestial, doctrinaire cretins like Huhne (well, really, I’d cheerfully see him hanged, drawn and quartered, but I’d settle for life without parole.)

  11. Matt,

    Gordon Brown showed as that legally manifestos aren’t binding.

    If all we are selecting is party apparatchiks who will only do the bidding of the party leader then the EU is even more f*cked up than I had realised.

  12. Simon, manifestos aren’t legally binding, correct. And I don’t expect those elected to just do what they’re told.

    I do expect candidates to declare an intention to vote against the policies they’re campaigning on if they intend to do so. With the exception of Helmer, who’s been consistent on it, got a link to any of them saying they’d vote differently during the election?

  13. Matt,

    No, I was making a general point from a middle aged cynic watching a politician didn’t do something that was promised story.

    Given the witch hunt after the vote I can understand it if they didn’t signal their intentions before hand.

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