Riots in Manchester and SalfordAugust 10, 2011 Tim WorstallThe English11 CommentsHow would anyone know? previousEoin Clarke\’s latestnextWhining about American taxes 11 thoughts on “Riots in Manchester and Salford” Ian Bennett August 10, 2011 at 7:34 am Apparently there’s £4.90 worth of damage. j king August 10, 2011 at 7:58 am cheap j king August 10, 2011 at 7:58 am I mean – ‘cheap joke’ Gutbucket August 10, 2011 at 9:35 am Manchester and Salford are quite posh now, I think. Matthew August 10, 2011 at 9:48 am Riots hit Bradford overnight, doing almost £2,000,000 of improvements. Richard August 10, 2011 at 10:47 am From one of the BBC journalists last night: “people are following us around with shopping bags, asking where the riots are” Got to love my home city. Richard August 10, 2011 at 10:50 am Gloucester as well, apparently. Will Bath be next? JamesV August 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm Anything Londoners can sort, Mancs can sort better. Innit. Richard August 10, 2011 at 8:56 pm The arrest numbers I saw did look like almost a third of total arrests during the riots were in Manchester, with Liverpool not far behind, despite only having one night of it to London’s four. Tougher policing, or just more used to dealing with this sort of thing? john b August 11, 2011 at 6:58 am Accounts from my friends in Manchester and Salford suggest that it’s not so much tougher policing, as more clued-up policing. The problem with policing in London on Sunday/Monday wasn’t a lack of force, it was a lack of coordination and of absolute manpower. The looters flashmobbed, looted, ran away, and regrouped. That isn’t how riots have historically happened: normally, the mob is trying to claim a specific territory, and the authorities are trying to stop them. Like a traditional war, with a front line. Short of shoot-to-kill for fleeing suspects (not how we’ve ever done things in England and I hope never is), ‘tougher’ wouldn’t have achieved anything against the kind of behaviour in London at the weekend. The way to deal with it is through a combination of understanding the looters’ tactics, and having enough of a police presence arranged in the right places that there just isn’t anywhere to run. In London, once the cops worked this out on Tuesday, the rioting stopped almost immediately (presumably because the scrotes either got arrested fairly rapidly, or worked out that they would get arrested if they didn’t stop). Manchester and Liverpool police had the benefit of a three-day London case study to work into their own plans. Pingback: Banditry » Riot strategy, or ‘why calls for tougher cops are missing the point’ Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.