Ed Miliband lies through his teeth to the Scots

Ed Miliband will make the case for keeping Scotland as part of the United Kingdom in a speech in Glasgow on Monday.

Miliband is expected to describe the \”progressive\” argument for rejecting independence in what the party billed as a major speech on the constitution.

He\’s not listed there as telling them the truth. That there\’s almost no chance of Labour gaining power at Westminster for a generation or two without the rotten boroughs of the central belt in Scotland.

Then again, the argument that you shouldn\’t go so you can vote for me isn\’t all that strong: not from a Miliband.

7 thoughts on “Ed Miliband lies through his teeth to the Scots”

  1. (British) politician lies to gain, or retain power?

    ‘Snot news, is it?

    Even if you add “and thinks we’re all too stupid to notice.”

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    In fairness, if Scotland goes, there will be a Labour government in Britain. We have a two party system after all. It would just be a very different Labour party. It would have to move from the centre of UK politics to the centre of English politics. Which is about where Cameron’s mildest right wing critics are. So Ed and his brother would be out of work. Or at least they would have to search under the couch for some new beliefs and principles. But the party would go on.

  3. I’m in two minds as to which outcome I favour in a referendum: the porridge wogs vote for independence and penury, or they stick a thumb in the eye of that preposterous little goitre of a man, wee ‘Lec’ Salmond. Either way it will be entertaining.

  4. I’m no fan of Ed Miliband. But isn’t it a basic principle of persuasion that you address your audience’s self-interest, not your own?

  5. I’m no fan of Ed Milliband either, but the implications of Scottish Independence for the Labour party at Westminster have been a commonplace of the nationalist debate in Scotland for many years, and hardly need pointing out to a Scottish audience. Which is presumably why he didn’t.

  6. Andrew: 1974 is questionable (both 1 and 2). The Tories still wouldn’t have had a majority in Feb, and the UUP and Liberals still would have turned them down for a coalition. And Labour would have only been eight short of a majority in October, so the most likely outcome of that one would have been a Lib-Lab pact of the kind that actually happened three years later (since a third election would have been a joke nobody was willing to countenance…).

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