Left Foot Dimwits

The unelected 26 clerics in the Lords can have a major impact on the way the country is run. For instance, when there was a vote in 2006 on allowing terminally ill people the right to die, they organised and voted against the reforms.


So the Bishops insisted that terminally ill people would not in fact die? Had a right not to in fact?

Don\’t these people have editors?

4 thoughts on “Left Foot Dimwits”

  1. My granddad, who died about this time last year of a great deal of cancer (macro cause) and a fair old quantity of morphine (micro cause), would have punched you in the face for that one.

    He and my nan spent the previous 15 years outlining the extent to which they wanted to die if in the kind of situations that the Lords were discussing. He ended up taking the “this is enough morphine to make things not hurt anymore and may also may you die” option (which, thankfully, we do in Commonwealthy places; America is madder).

    So, just, what the hell? The right to not die is something that, under the proposals above, everyone would have. Nobody is even contemplating an obligation to die.

    It’s not like abortion, where there’s a sane secular objection based on different basic moral beliefs about personhood and what people might want – my granddad had the right to die, as will I whenever I reach his situation, it was his business and no other fucker’s business, and any scumbag who wants to stop such a thing is solely a scumbag.

  2. johnb: “Nobody is even contemplating an obligation to die”.

    Errr, I think we are all pretty much under an “obligation” to do just that. Unless you’ve discovered a way to wriggle out of it without telling us about it.

  3. Just wait until you are old ,dying , in pain and some smart alec starts splitting hairs about what you can or cannot do.

  4. So the Bishops insisted that terminally ill people would not in fact die? Had a right not to in fact?

    Don’t these people have editors?

    Eh? The Bishops did and do insist that people don’t have a “right to die”, i.e. a the right to help to end their own lives.

    “The Bill would allow a doctor, at the persistent and informed request of a terminally ill patient who has capacity and is suffering unbearably, to prescribe medication for self-administration by the patient in order to end his suffering by ending his life.” – Lord Joffe

    Where LFF falls down is in suggesting the Bishops were instrumental in the defeat of the Bill, because the Bishops numbered 14 but the majority was 48.


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